Looks like Glenn Beck is right on Inflation

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29 Jun 2011, 6:17 pm

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So, you're admitting that Glenn Beck was wrong. Congratulations on attaining enlightenment.


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Actually he isn't wrong, we're about to go down hill if something doesn't change and the kooks in Washington don't get their spending under control.


Okay, so you're still unenlightened.


Funny, coming from someone that thinks it's okay to do away with the 1st Amendment.



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29 Jun 2011, 6:24 pm

You do have the right to remain unenlightened. I can compel a donkey to watch PBS kids, but I can't make him drink it in.



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15 Jul 2011, 4:19 pm

Prices are actually dropping

https://personal.vanguard.com/us/insigh ... w-07152011

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Economic Week in Review: Prices drop, but economy's soft patch continues
JULY 15, 2011

Producer and consumer prices both fell substantially in June while sales output and inventory reports continue to point to an economic soft patch. For the week ended July 15, the S&P 500 Index declined 2.1% to 1,316.14 (for a year-to-date total return—including price change plus dividends—of about 5.7%). The yield on the 10-year U.S. Treasury note fell 9 basis points to 2.94% (for a year-to-date decrease of 36 basis points).

Prices plummet for the first time in a year
Producer prices fell 0.4% in June, their steepest decline since February 2010, as energy prices eased. Prior to June, overall prices had risen for 12 straight months. Residential electric power costs declined a record 2%, while prices for gasoline, which had been rising partly because of turmoil in Arab oil-producing countries, slid 4.7%.

The Consumer Price Index (CPI) also fell in June, its first decline in a year.
Again, falling energy prices were a key factor. Although core CPI (excluding food and energy) actually rose 0.3% for the second consecutive month, this is likely a result of lingering Japanese supply chain disruptions. "Hopefully, this CPI reading will bring relief to many investors concerned with the prospect of rising inflation," said Vanguard economist Roger Aliaga-Díaz. "In fact, even with this increase in the core CPI, annual inflation is still well below the Fed's implicit target."

Inventories at highest level in nearly 3 years
U.S. business inventories rose 1% to $1.51 trillion in May, after rising by an upwardly revised 1% in April. This slightly topped the 0.7% increase that analysts had expected. Inventories are at their highest level since October 2008 and 11.6% higher than a year ago. Wholesale inventories alone are up 15.5% over last year's level. The inventory buildup reflected the soft economy.


So, who is the "kook" now?



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26 Aug 2011, 8:42 pm

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I pay somewhere about $3 for a loaf of good bread (sometimes less, since it's frequently on sale). How about we make a bet here Inuyasha, to see if Beck's predictions come true? He says the price of food will rise 700%-1000% in 2011? I'll be generous and say that his prediction comes true if we see a measly 300% increase. This December, I will go to my grocery store and buy a loaf of bread, the same brand I buy now. If it costs under $10, Beck is full of sh**. Agreed?

If you want me to take a broader basket of food prices, I can get prices for all the food I typically eat when I go shopping this weekend and compare against the same foods in December.


Has your loaf of bread gone anywhere near $10 yet?



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27 Aug 2011, 12:02 am

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I pay somewhere about $3 for a loaf of good bread (sometimes less, since it's frequently on sale). How about we make a bet here Inuyasha, to see if Beck's predictions come true? He says the price of food will rise 700%-1000% in 2011? I'll be generous and say that his prediction comes true if we see a measly 300% increase. This December, I will go to my grocery store and buy a loaf of bread, the same brand I buy now. If it costs under $10, Beck is full of sh**. Agreed?

If you want me to take a broader basket of food prices, I can get prices for all the food I typically eat when I go shopping this weekend and compare against the same foods in December.


Has your loaf of bread gone anywhere near $10 yet?


Cute.... except you're deliberately ignoring some key variables. Right now we haven't had hyper inflation hit because Greece and several other European countries are in the process of an economic implosion.

You have not proven Glenn Beck wrong at all, we've just gotten lucky that Europe's problems are worse than ours, however we're heading down the same road to ruin Europe is.



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27 Aug 2011, 1:03 am

pandabear wrote:
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I pay somewhere about $3 for a loaf of good bread (sometimes less, since it's frequently on sale). How about we make a bet here Inuyasha, to see if Beck's predictions come true? He says the price of food will rise 700%-1000% in 2011? I'll be generous and say that his prediction comes true if we see a measly 300% increase. This December, I will go to my grocery store and buy a loaf of bread, the same brand I buy now. If it costs under $10, Beck is full of sh**. Agreed?

If you want me to take a broader basket of food prices, I can get prices for all the food I typically eat when I go shopping this weekend and compare against the same foods in December.


Has your loaf of bread gone anywhere near $10 yet?

Nope. The fancy premium breads are still about $4/loaf. I typically wait around to buy though, since at least once a week one of the brands at the local grocery is on sale, meaning I typically pay $2-3/loaf for good bread.


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27 Aug 2011, 1:19 am

Orwell wrote:
pandabear wrote:
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I pay somewhere about $3 for a loaf of good bread (sometimes less, since it's frequently on sale). How about we make a bet here Inuyasha, to see if Beck's predictions come true? He says the price of food will rise 700%-1000% in 2011? I'll be generous and say that his prediction comes true if we see a measly 300% increase. This December, I will go to my grocery store and buy a loaf of bread, the same brand I buy now. If it costs under $10, Beck is full of sh**. Agreed?

If you want me to take a broader basket of food prices, I can get prices for all the food I typically eat when I go shopping this weekend and compare against the same foods in December.


Has your loaf of bread gone anywhere near $10 yet?

Nope. The fancy premium breads are still about $4/loaf. I typically wait around to buy though, since at least once a week one of the brands at the local grocery is on sale, meaning I typically pay $2-3/loaf for good bread.


Again though, Europe is in worse shape than we are which is buying us some time.



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27 Aug 2011, 1:49 am

The other thing that's buying us some time is that Glenn Beck doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, ever.



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27 Aug 2011, 4:49 am

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The other thing that's buying us some time is that Glenn Beck doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, ever.


Glenn Beck is a buffoon. He and his buddy Rush Limbaugh could form a circle jerk.

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27 Aug 2011, 5:22 am

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The other thing that's buying us some time is that Glenn Beck doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, ever.


Glenn Beck is a buffoon. He and his buddy Rush Limbaugh could form a circle jerk.

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No, because as a friend of mine explained once, in order to form a circle jerk, you'd need at least three willing participants. Glenn and Rush would just be a straight up jerk.



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27 Aug 2011, 7:59 am

pandabear wrote:
Prices are actually dropping

https://personal.vanguard.com/us/insigh ... w-07152011

Quote:
Economic Week in Review: Prices drop, but economy's soft patch continues
JULY 15, 2011

Producer and consumer prices both fell substantially in June while sales output and inventory reports continue to point to an economic soft patch. For the week ended July 15, the S&P 500 Index declined 2.1% to 1,316.14 (for a year-to-date total return—including price change plus dividends—of about 5.7%). The yield on the 10-year U.S. Treasury note fell 9 basis points to 2.94% (for a year-to-date decrease of 36 basis points).

Prices plummet for the first time in a year
Producer prices fell 0.4% in June, their steepest decline since February 2010, as energy prices eased. Prior to June, overall prices had risen for 12 straight months. Residential electric power costs declined a record 2%, while prices for gasoline, which had been rising partly because of turmoil in Arab oil-producing countries, slid 4.7%.

The Consumer Price Index (CPI) also fell in June, its first decline in a year.
Again, falling energy prices were a key factor. Although core CPI (excluding food and energy) actually rose 0.3% for the second consecutive month, this is likely a result of lingering Japanese supply chain disruptions. "Hopefully, this CPI reading will bring relief to many investors concerned with the prospect of rising inflation," said Vanguard economist Roger Aliaga-Díaz. "In fact, even with this increase in the core CPI, annual inflation is still well below the Fed's implicit target."

Inventories at highest level in nearly 3 years
U.S. business inventories rose 1% to $1.51 trillion in May, after rising by an upwardly revised 1% in April. This slightly topped the 0.7% increase that analysts had expected. Inventories are at their highest level since October 2008 and 11.6% higher than a year ago. Wholesale inventories alone are up 15.5% over last year's level. The inventory buildup reflected the soft economy.


So, who is the "kook" now?


Those price statsitcs are the result of hedonics. Look at gas prices, look at the cost of food. Where I shop frozen vegetables have gone from .79 to now .99

Bannas from .47/lb to .59/lb

Bread has increased from $2.50 to $3.50 a loaf

Canned beans from $1.38 to $1.87

Tuna from $.57 a can to $.88

Tilapia fish 4.99/lb to 5.99/lb

A 20 lb bag of rice I bought for 10.87 is now around 14.00

candy bars were .69 now 1.00 even

Look at commodities! they're exploding. I bought silver at $9.87 spot, now it's over $40,00!

Palladium, copper, zinc, uranium, sugar, cotton. All up dramatically over the last 5 to 10 years. This is the result of inflation.



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27 Aug 2011, 8:21 am

Why would you be shopping for uranium? Are you building a bomb?



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27 Aug 2011, 8:37 am

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Why would you be shopping for uranium? Are you building a bomb?


Hey we have the right to bear arms, Including nuclear arms. If I think everyone within a 14 mile radius is a threat to me I have the right to blow them up. It's for self defence. :P



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27 Aug 2011, 8:40 am

Oh, I see. You are a conservative.



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27 Aug 2011, 8:51 am

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Oh, I see. You are a conservative.

I can't wait to build it. Stacy will regret ever breaking up with me. Stupid Bradley what's he got that I don't? I know what I've got... a nuclear bomb. I'll show them! I'll show the world! MWA HA HA HA HA!



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27 Aug 2011, 8:57 am

Well, good luck to you, then.

On the other hand, housing prices have been going down, as have interest rates.

Have you shopped the Back to School sales? Some very low prices on back-to-school commodities. A very good time to stock up on pens, pencils, markers, crayons, notebooks and backpacks.