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Should Prostitution be Legal?
I'm male, and I say "Yay!" 66%  66%  [ 103 ]
I'm male, and I say "Neigh!" 14%  14%  [ 22 ]
I'm female, and I say "Yes" 15%  15%  [ 23 ]
I'm female, and I say "No" 5%  5%  [ 7 ]
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04 Feb 2013, 9:30 pm

I'm against legalizing prostitution because it is a public sanitation hazard. Consensual sex is not a wholly private affair - there are negative externalities (spread of STDs, pregnancies) whose cost is transferred, directly or indirectly, to society. When a hooker picks up gonorrhea from a client, she spreads it to other clients, who spread it to parties not involved in the original transaction. There are moral arguments against it too. It promotes the idea that sex is just a matter of course, not something that creates life or is an expression of intimacy with a romantic partner. If sex is available tout court, then men will be less inclined to seek marriage. I believe it would hurt families.



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04 Feb 2013, 10:33 pm

Men still look for wives in countries with legal prostitution. Without legal prostitution, they are often in a big hurry to get married just to get some p****.



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05 Feb 2013, 4:41 pm

I just finished a movie relevant to the topic. Not a great movie--but it gives you some idea of what a little neighborhood Thai brothel is like. It is called Phuying Soi Sap or Puying Soi Sap

This shows the behind-the-scenes making of the movie
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUg2BFwIG-A[/youtube]


And, a short scene from the movie: a shy boy's first time
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=199HHK-dqr4[/youtube]



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05 Feb 2013, 8:57 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
Previously, someone suggested turning the "Should Prostitution be Legal?" thread into a poll.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf43041-0-90.html

So, here we go.

I'm curious to see whether attitudes differ by gender.


I'm male, and I say no. I'm not against prostitution per se but, rather, against the industry of prostitution. Maybe if pimping and whorehouses were illegal, then I'd change my mind.

I think, for example, that an ultra hot girl (or guy) in college should be able to sell sex for spending money.



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17 Feb 2013, 9:04 am

I will place here tidbits of a side discussion that came from the Polygamy thread. Some of you may have a keen interest in prostitution, but not care one way or the other about polygamy, and I didn't want you to miss out. So, here goes:

The Bible was not written by Baptists, and it doesn't say "Don't have any fun!" Tel Aviv is one of the world's biggest cities for prostitution.

http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/magazine ... s-1.469461

And, a lot of the customers are ultra-orthodox

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed ... s-789.html

who don't use condoms, and who insist on a full vaginal creampie, to remain kosher.

Absolutely no-one follows the Bible more closely than the ultra-Orthodox Jews. For the most part, they wouldn't eat a ham sandwich to save their lives. So, employing the services of an executive ejaculatory administrator must be perfectly okay with Yahweh and fully consistent with the Bible, so long as you don't pull an Onanism.

Moreover, since I think that they don't practise masturbation, this may be their only sanctioned outlet, other than getting married and shagging the missus.



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19 Feb 2013, 12:02 am

it should be safe,legal and cheap. very cheap.



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19 Feb 2013, 8:16 am

billiscool wrote:
it should be safe,legal and cheap. very cheap.


A man of excellent standards. :wtg:



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19 Feb 2013, 10:09 am

Telekon wrote:
I'm against legalizing prostitution because it is a public sanitation hazard. Consensual sex is not a wholly private affair - there are negative externalities (spread of STDs, pregnancies) whose cost is transferred, directly or indirectly, to society.
If this is as you say, then you actually pay for that costs, because there is no discussion if there should be prostitution or not, there will always be prostitution, we only can discuss if we want the anyway existing prostitution unlegalized and without control or legalized and with control.

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When a hooker picks up gonorrhea from a client, she spreads it to other clients, who spread it to parties not involved in the original transaction.
Yes, thats whats actually happening. Thats why woman, legally working as prostitutes have to visit a doctor regularly, and have the doctors document that proofs her to be healthy with her. Beside the fact, that legal working prostitutes work on their own, so there is no pimp-guy, forcing them to work without condom or taking them away the money so they couldnt afford one.

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There are moral arguments against it too.
May be so, but doesnt seem to help anything. Moral argument seem not to change the fact, that we only can discuss if we want illegal or legal prostitution, and not about the existence of prostitution itself. Still even in Vatican you have prostitution (Yes, really.).

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It promotes the idea that sex is just a matter of course, not something that creates life or is an expression of intimacy with a romantic partner.


Nope. As it actually does, also in your country since the existence of your country, it promotes the idea that sex is just a matter of course, or creation of life or an expression of intimacy with a romantic partner, depending on the situation and your personal wishes.

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If sex is available tout court, then men will be less inclined to seek marriage. I believe it would hurt families.
Sex is avalaible anyway in your country, no matter what "tout court" means.


Sorry but you missed the topic. The discussion is about the advantages and mis advantages of legalizing or non legalizing of existing prostitution. And not if we want to stuck our fingers in the ears and close our eyes and tell what advantages a dreamland would have, in which no prostitution exists. Yeah, and Star Trek beaming would be a great way to travel, you dont have to tell us, everyone knows. Doesnt help anything when you want to talk about advantages and misadvantages of existing travel methods. Right now you told us about the advantages if prostitution would not exist. Sure, we all knew how nice that was. As we all know it was nice if cancer didnt exist, and people wouldnt die from it. But dreaming of a world without cancer doesnt help a discussion about advantages and misadvantages of chemotherapie and alternative curing methods.

Shortly you told as argument: I dont want it to be legalized, because as long as it isnt legalized I can go on with plugging my finger into the ears, close my eyes and lie to myself, that it wouldnt exist because it isnt legal. Sure.



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23 Feb 2013, 8:50 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/1 ... 06020.html

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....Nancy said business is slow lately, and she pulls in $300 to $400 a night. But on a good night, she can go home with $700 to $800.

Nancy said she's trained to be a medical assistant, but doesn't see herself changing careers anytime soon.

"I know how to go get a job, but it's just like, I don't wanna wait two weeks for that money where I can make it in one day. I don't want them to take my taxes out when I can keep all my money," she said...


One vote against legalization, I guess.



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23 Feb 2013, 9:09 pm

billiscool wrote:
it should be safe,legal and cheap. very cheap.


How about safe,legal and expensive?Girls just wanna have fund$. :lol:


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23 Feb 2013, 9:12 pm

Being illegal drives up the price. Although, from what I understand, Nevada brothels ain't cheap.



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01 Mar 2013, 10:18 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMDyD9AaIi8[/youtube]



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02 Mar 2013, 3:48 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pteZDX_0keQ[/youtube]

It seems that some Christians and some anti-sex Feminists share a common ground in wanting to put a stop to prostitution.

Where they differ: the Christian woman sees it as her obligation to submit to and fully satisfy her husband, whereas the Feminist would want to be the one who calls the shots, both carnally and otherwise.



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17 Mar 2013, 8:58 pm

I've started watching a movie l'Apollonide : Souvenirs de la Maison Close

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKI4xz2OA8g[/youtube]

The English title is either "House of Pleasures" or "House of Tolerance", and is about a French brothel circa 1900, and shows the ladies lounging about in their luxurious outfits, awaiting their gentlemanly clients. While watching the movie, it occurred to me that prostitution used to be central to French culture. Read just about any French or American novel set in France during the first half of the twentieth century--there are invariably executive ejaculatory administrators who feature in the story. Especially if Jean-Paul Sartre is the author. And, executive ejaculatory administrators were also prominent in French paintings during the 19th and early 20th centuries.

I was curious about what happened--why France doesn't particularly come up when the topic of sex tourism is discussed, etc., and looked up the situation on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_France

After World War II, France turned prudish, and started closing down its famous brothels and discouraging the profession. :cry:



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17 Mar 2013, 10:05 pm

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I think the feminist perspective(whatever school we're dealing with) is that no well of mind woman could consent to sex work. Honestly at the core of it it's a very anti-woman viewpoint in my opinion given that implication despite trying to reconcile it with being 'anti-john'. Even if a woman willingly participates she is being raped on some level.

I'm a little past my prime, but I think if it had been legal and safe when I was younger, I would have considered it. I vote legalize and regulate.



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18 Mar 2013, 11:54 am

Prostitution pays for one job only and does not provide cradle to the grave socialism.