Would you date a feminist?

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Outrider
To a lot of men and women. Sensitive male =crybaby.
"So what someone hurt you, stop being a crybaby"
I've been called it a lot.
My ex friend would say horrible things to me constantly because he said I needed to tough up.

Ok, you were right. I imagined the worst case scenario and my imagine got away with me. Probably a result of watching to many MRA Youtube videos, they report such scenarios all the time but it's probably extremely rare. Also I've heard of some even worse stuff from the army but that says more about the army than anything.

BTW I only agree with about half of those. The other half of MRAs seem to be either too hypocritical (accusing feminists of playing the victim but than they themselves play the victim), too cowardly (MGTOWs act like girls are scary, than refuse to ask them out) or in some cases genuinely misogynist (Red Pill guys say women are less intelligent because the scored lower on an IQ test that only tested for the sorts of thinking men are good at).

"Outrider
To a lot of men and women. Sensitive male =crybaby.
"So what someone hurt you, stop being a crybaby"
I've been called it a lot.
My ex friend would say horrible things to me constantly because he said I needed to tough up."

I'm sorry you've been through that, but just know it's not you I'm targeting at all but I'm sorry if my words upset you.

To give an example of what I mean, I'm talking about whiney males who complain about everything - it's unattractive (for friendships) in both men and women.

I remember back in high school a feminine gay male at our group. "Ugh, I broke a nail. Ugh my makeup is drying. I hate x teacher. Oh my gosh, she's such a b-tch, I hate X person, they're such a b-tch."

It's not just the super-feminine gay guys, but I see it in a lot of straight males too. "I hate my job." "I hate my phone, I want my parents to buy me a new one" (in the teen years).

Even young adults I see it. Wah, wah, wah. "My name's Joe, I don't like X thing, so I'm going to passively-aggressively intimidate them. I'll be sarcastic to Todd to make fun of him next time I see him at work, I'll scratch his car, I'll mess up stuff on his desk, because I am the ultimate coward and am too afraid of losing my job and am afraid to directly confront Todd myself. I'm too much of a pathetic human being to politely ask Todd to stop his rude behavior or go to the boss about it."

Apply this to almost EVERYTHING in Joe's life.

Have you heard of the 'emo' stereotype? You know, that makeup wearing, long-haired goth kid who complains "Ugh, mom won't buy me the Iphone 9, I'm going to cut myself. I bully people and no one wants to be my friend, I thought girls hated nice guys, ugh they're stupid, I'm superior, no one understands me because I think I'm super special and unique, I am a gender-neutral androgynous non-gender demi-romantic sapiosexual individual, etc."

Or the 'neckbeard' stereotype? Overweight males who wear fedoras. They also seem to have a "Women don't like nice guys. I am a gentlemen and educated, and am above stupid swagboys. I am an atheist and believe I am superior to religious people." Blah blah blah.

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I doubt you are anything like these people.

And, yeah, I do know a lot of men complain about being lonely, but that's different than actually being hateful or sexist about it, like these men are.

"BTW I only agree with about half of those. The other half of MRAs seem to be either too hypocritical (accusing feminists of playing the victim but than they themselves play the victim), too cowardly (MGTOWs act like girls are scary, than refuse to ask them out) or in some cases genuinely misogynist (Red Pill guys say women are less intelligent because the scored lower on an IQ test that only tested for the sorts of thinking men are good at)."

I don't associate with MRA's at all and find most of them to be absolute extremist's, so before Feminist's even think to clump me into that category, I am not.

Passive aggressiveness pisses me of.

^ Her post reminds me of Dilbert.

Hey, kraftie. I've just seen this post of yours. I'm a little lost here - boy, this conversation really goes far! -, so please let me know: did I offend you? If so, I'm sorry. Not my intention at all.

You need a group hug, people.

I'll admit I've become far more aggressive in recent weeks on WP, due to prolonged loneliness.

I mean no harm to anyone personally, but it is a fact that I feel I have very strong opinions, but then again most of us may, in a way.

This is one of my only social outlets.

My best friend is too pre-occupied these days with his online games to care about me anymore (and, over the past few months/years, I'm starting to want more and more to find someone new anyway. It's possible he's seen all these posts I've made about him and that's why he's not talking to me. Oh well).

And my other two good friends live far away but they are loyal and I still chat to them, but it has been quite a bit.

You're a nice lady from BL. Why should I be mad at you?

People should be allowed to disagree with an idea without being angry at the person.

I once dated a girl that needed me to dress up like an anime character in order for her to perform a certain sexual act. She identified as a feminist. Yes, I know; not all feminists are THAT crazy.

That means she had a fetish and was objectifying you! Talk about hypocracy!

Assuming that they also got the same about of work out of them...

The other issue is that an employer would look at the cost to them of employing someone. Whilst pay is a major part of this there can be other factors involved. e.g. employing part time is invariably more expensive than employing full time.

Didn't someone post in the first half of the thread a graph of men's employment rate going down while women's employment rate going up?

Looks like many employers have figured out how to cut cost and ARE going in that direction.



Does this mean this post pisses you off?



Because there's nothing more passive aggressive than the "I don't want to name names but let me go into the specifics so I can complain about people without them being able to confront me" technique.

Unlike Boo, I at least name-drop when I'm talking about specific users, but only if they have contributed to the thread I post in.

Their contribution is a signal to me they have joined the discussion, and thus will allow themselves to be referred to in the discussion, so long as it's not slander or 'gossip'.

Otherwise, I won't passively aggressively say 'in another thread, such and such did such and such.'

259, how is your post passive-aggressive?

It sounds direct and assertive.

Unless you mean passive speech rather than active speech, something that usually also frustrates me (usually my father and his passive way of saying things, I always get impatient and want him to get to the point instead of leaving me on-edge. For instance he may say 'There's a problem...[pause] blah blah" when there actually isn't anything wrong. It adds unnecessary worry to my life that he can't just spit things out.

And it really does seem more women are working nowadays while men struggle to get a job.

Women already have their own personal safety shelters set-up, I wouldn't be surprised they get slightly more sympathy from (male or female) employers than a man.

Because there's nothing more passive aggressive than the "I don't want to name names but let me go into the specifics so I can complain about people without them being able to confront me" technique.[/quote]
1. Show me actual statistics and real statistics on wages. 2. I don't get what you even mean by that, are you trying to insult me? This also implies that you are passive aggressive in real life. 3. Aren't you one of the ones that like to argue on here? You don't have many posts so that makes me wonder. Really though, "Does that mean this thread pisses you off?" Really? Also, DAMN the spam filter on this site. Half the time it deletes what I type. Fix that Alex, please.

No!

I love strong, intelligence, independent women.
I can't stand whiney Feminists.