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10 May 2019, 1:03 pm

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Trump is Israel's puppet.


I don't doubt that there is truth to this as well. The one doesn't preclude the other and would help explain the appearance of his loyalties being conflicted in some instances, although the other factor is likely that he's not particularly loyal to any entity except himself.


All Trump has done is help Israel and hurt Russia, so no. He likes Putin and listens to him. And so he should listen to him.


Because Putin is a great advisor who always has America's interests in mind. :lol:


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10 May 2019, 1:10 pm

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The only thing Russiagate has done is to direct attention away from actual Trump policies, which is what the resistance should be focusing on. Aarron Mate made an excellent point in an interview shortly after the whole conspiracy theory fell apart. Before Russiagate really took hold, you had people protesting what Trump was doing -- like implementing the ban on Muslims. Once the MSM latched onto Russiagate, that's all they focused on. And those who still buy into it fail to realize it's done nothing but empower Trump -- not to mention ramp up the new cold war, which is dangerous and insane.







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There's no reason one can't believe that the conclusions of the report aren't relevant, without also taking issue with his policies. I don't disagree that the media regularly choose to let this topic suck must of the oxygen from the room, but that doesn't mean individuals should follow their lead. Placing too much hope in this as the silver bullet that will take him down is a mistake, that doesn't mean that it's completely irrelevant and shouldn't ever been spoken of.


There just isn't any proof in the report. This nonsense needs to die. It's not just about spending too much time on a conspiracy, rather then attack Trump on policies. It's more complicated, and disgusting, then that.

For instance, hardly any attention was given to Trump's veto of the Yemen bill, which was designed to get us out the conflict in that country where the U.S. is aiding Saudi Arabia in committing genocide. Why, you may ask? The left can't attack Trump for continuing a war that Obama started. They've become more hawkish on war than the right, quite amazingly. When Trump was talking about getting out of Syria, the left attacked him with what are traditionally right-wing talking points. They are every bit as owned by the Military-Industrial Complex as Trump has now shown himself to be. That's why I could never vote for any corporate Dem, simply to get rid of Trump. My conscience won't let me.


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10 May 2019, 4:07 pm

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And still, there's zero evidence.


I agree, there's zero evidence Trump isn't a foreign agent. :wink:
On the other hand, no matter how many times you insist on ignoring the evidence which other posters have so graciously posted, that evidence does exist. Personally, I'm not playing this game because I know you'll refuse to recognize reality no matter how much evidence is provided so long as it doesn't support your claims.


The burden of proof is on those pushing the Russiagate hoax conspiracy theory. You've yet to provide any because there is nothing.


Other posters have already posted evidence that you've chosen to ignore. You can keep insisting there's no evidence, but you're starting to sound as comical as Dear Leader still insisting 'no collusion'. It's irrelevant whether or not you accept reality, because reality will continue to be reality even if you insist on ignoring it. Good luck with that approach, you'll need it.


I've been debunking it for 3 years. It's been proven to be a hoax as there is zero evidence and people still push the conspiracy theory. Shameful. Trump is Israel's puppet.


No, you voiced ideological arguments against Putingate, but have not shown anything convincing. So far, you avoid the convictions of key Trump henchmen.
Obama never had such sleaze in his administration.


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10 May 2019, 4:53 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
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Trump is Israel's puppet.


I don't doubt that there is truth to this as well. The one doesn't preclude the other and would help explain the appearance of his loyalties being conflicted in some instances, although the other factor is likely that he's not particularly loyal to any entity except himself.


All Trump has done is help Israel and hurt Russia, so no. He likes Putin and listens to him. And so he should listen to him.


Because Putin is a great advisor who always has America's interests in mind. :lol:


Uh No, because he has a bunch of nuclear weapons and he's a trillion times smarter than Trump.


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10 May 2019, 4:55 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
And still, there's zero evidence.


I agree, there's zero evidence Trump isn't a foreign agent. :wink:
On the other hand, no matter how many times you insist on ignoring the evidence which other posters have so graciously posted, that evidence does exist. Personally, I'm not playing this game because I know you'll refuse to recognize reality no matter how much evidence is provided so long as it doesn't support your claims.


The burden of proof is on those pushing the Russiagate hoax conspiracy theory. You've yet to provide any because there is nothing.


Other posters have already posted evidence that you've chosen to ignore. You can keep insisting there's no evidence, but you're starting to sound as comical as Dear Leader still insisting 'no collusion'. It's irrelevant whether or not you accept reality, because reality will continue to be reality even if you insist on ignoring it. Good luck with that approach, you'll need it.


I've been debunking it for 3 years. It's been proven to be a hoax as there is zero evidence and people still push the conspiracy theory. Shameful. Trump is Israel's puppet.


No, you voiced ideological arguments against Putingate, but have not shown anything convincing. So far, you avoid the convictions of key Trump henchmen.
Obama never had such sleaze in his administration.


Seriously, give it a rest! The conspiracy theory hoax you've pushed for 3 years has died and now you're saying you want more from me. Stop watching CNN and Maddow


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10 May 2019, 4:58 pm

I will no longer waste my time with the Russiagate hoax. If someone wants to start a thread in the tv and video forum feel free. There are people dying because of the neocons surrounding Trump and now a possible war with Iran (AGAINST RUSSIA'S INTERESTS). This is serious now.


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10 May 2019, 11:31 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Trump is Israel's puppet.


I don't doubt that there is truth to this as well. The one doesn't preclude the other and would help explain the appearance of his loyalties being conflicted in some instances, although the other factor is likely that he's not particularly loyal to any entity except himself.


All Trump has done is help Israel and hurt Russia, so no. He likes Putin and listens to him. And so he should listen to him.


Because Putin is a great advisor who always has America's interests in mind. :lol:


Uh No, because he has a bunch of nuclear weapons and he's a trillion times smarter than Trump.


Clearly that's the guy who should be advising (or more accurately, playing for a chump) the American president. :lol:


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10 May 2019, 11:33 pm

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No, you voiced ideological arguments against Putingate, but have not shown anything convincing. So far, you avoid the convictions of key Trump henchmen.
Obama never had such sleaze in his administration.


How dare we not take those ideological arguments at face value. Someone claimed it, therefore it's been conclusively proven.

Unrelated, I will be unable to post any further due to starting my Space Marine training. You know it must be true, someone has claimed it. Image


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11 May 2019, 5:46 am

funeralxempire wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Trump is Israel's puppet.


I don't doubt that there is truth to this as well. The one doesn't preclude the other and would help explain the appearance of his loyalties being conflicted in some instances, although the other factor is likely that he's not particularly loyal to any entity except himself.


All Trump has done is help Israel and hurt Russia, so no. He likes Putin and listens to him. And so he should listen to him.


Because Putin is a great advisor who always has America's interests in mind. :lol:


Uh No, because he has a bunch of nuclear weapons and he's a trillion times smarter than Trump.


Clearly that's the guy who should be advising (or more accurately, playing for a chump) the American president. :lol:


I didn't say that. Trump should listen to all world leaders. The only people he's following at the moment are John Bolton, Kushner, Pompeo and Netanyahu.


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11 May 2019, 3:08 pm

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No, you voiced ideological arguments against Putingate, but have not shown anything convincing. So far, you avoid the convictions of key Trump henchmen.
Obama never had such sleaze in his administration.


How dare we not take those ideological arguments at face value. Someone claimed it, therefore it's been conclusively proven.

Unrelated, I will be unable to post any further due to starting my Space Marine training. You know it must be true, someone has claimed it. Image


:lol: :lol: :lol:


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11 May 2019, 3:10 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
And still, there's zero evidence.


I agree, there's zero evidence Trump isn't a foreign agent. :wink:
On the other hand, no matter how many times you insist on ignoring the evidence which other posters have so graciously posted, that evidence does exist. Personally, I'm not playing this game because I know you'll refuse to recognize reality no matter how much evidence is provided so long as it doesn't support your claims.


The burden of proof is on those pushing the Russiagate hoax conspiracy theory. You've yet to provide any because there is nothing.


Other posters have already posted evidence that you've chosen to ignore. You can keep insisting there's no evidence, but you're starting to sound as comical as Dear Leader still insisting 'no collusion'. It's irrelevant whether or not you accept reality, because reality will continue to be reality even if you insist on ignoring it. Good luck with that approach, you'll need it.


I've been debunking it for 3 years. It's been proven to be a hoax as there is zero evidence and people still push the conspiracy theory. Shameful. Trump is Israel's puppet.


No, you voiced ideological arguments against Putingate, but have not shown anything convincing. So far, you avoid the convictions of key Trump henchmen.
Obama never had such sleaze in his administration.


Seriously, give it a rest! The conspiracy theory hoax you've pushed for 3 years has died and now you're saying you want more from me. Stop watching CNN and Maddow


Why? Just because Trump and his professional Troll..., er, I mean AG, Bar, say so? As if Mueller and his team who came to a different conclusion don't count.


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11 May 2019, 5:55 pm

Yawning at the conspiracy theories... It's shameful that people double down when their conspiracy theories fall apart.


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11 May 2019, 9:22 pm

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Yawning at the conspiracy theories... It's shameful that people double down when their conspiracy theories fall apart.


I thought you were done responding to us on this subject.


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12 May 2019, 7:35 am

I am. The case is over, every point you make has already been debunked. Just give it a rest.


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NEVER!! !


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12 May 2019, 11:30 am

Read these to yourself everytime you feel the need to insist DURR NOO COLLUSION. They're more applicable to you than any other poster, but clearly self-awareness isn't one of your strengths.

JohnPowell wrote:
It's shameful that people double down when their conspiracy theories fall apart.


JohnPowell wrote:
The case is over, every point you make has already been debunked. Just give it a rest.


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