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Tempus Fugit
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24 Nov 2020, 4:44 am

Speaking subjective truth isn't a legitimate shield to make attacks.

And why does there have to be all this talk of punishment and banning like kids being sent to the headmaster or expelled?

How about "certain posters" just not acting like wokezilla all the time? This isn't Woke Planet.



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24 Nov 2020, 4:50 am

It's not a personal attack when it's an accurate description.

I can't go crying to moderation if I get called a socialist even if it's not 100% accurate and even if in some circles it's viewed as a pejorative because it's close enough to be reasonable.

Essentially the game here is to first ban fascist, then ban any other term that describes this part of the political spectrum on the insistence that's it's just a synonym but must be a personal attack and not just a term that describes a certain set of political views. Because the posters playing this game are so public it's unlikely to fool anyone. Best of luck though. Keep fighting the not-so-good fight.


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24 Nov 2020, 5:10 am

The accuracy of the description is in the eye of the attacker.

This thread comes off as fighting for the right to attack people.



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24 Nov 2020, 5:13 am

Wokezilla? I love it, it sounds funny.

BTW that term is considered a personal attack here. Someone had that comment edited out of their post by a mod when they called Alex that. :lol:


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24 Nov 2020, 5:24 am

Hi, my name is Wokezilla & I'm here to take your guns weak sauce hatorade argumentative attitude. I have nothing better to do, welcome to the quarantine.


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24 Nov 2020, 5:30 am

There have been some really good left, liberal, progressive members here who held really good debates without making personal attacks or acting hostile. They simply came off as intellectual. Unfortunately they're mostly gone now.



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24 Nov 2020, 5:32 am

Now we have you.


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24 Nov 2020, 5:34 am

I really hope the mods lock this & realize we are dealing with the same devil-may-care blinders-up attitude here that we have seen a thousand times before.

I don't think you are a nazi. You are nothing above them unless you exemplify it however.


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24 Nov 2020, 5:40 am

You do realize don't you that there are much broader social interaction boards which have actual Nazis to battle don't you?



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24 Nov 2020, 5:55 am

That's not why I'm here.


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24 Nov 2020, 6:21 am

funeralxempire wrote:
It's not a personal attack when it's an accurate description.

I can't go crying to moderation if I get called a socialist even if it's not 100% accurate and even if in some circles it's viewed as a pejorative because it's close enough to be reasonable.

Essentially the game here is to first ban fascist, then ban any other term that describes this part of the political spectrum on the insistence that's it's just a synonym but must be a personal attack and not just a term that describes a certain set of political views. Because the posters playing this game are so public it's unlikely to fool anyone. Best of luck though. Keep fighting the not-so-good fight.

We don't ban the word "fascist".
We treat calling people "fascist" as an insult, unless they openly express opinions that would get them banned anyway.

If someone is "fascist" to your definition but not to their own, calling them this word would only contribute to fights and toxicity. It will not make them reconsider their views nor see why their opinions might be harmful.

Thus, don't call WP users "fascist". Report them if they express racist or genocidal views.


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24 Nov 2020, 7:23 am

Reporting to mods and letting them deal with it is better than getting involved in arguments imo.

It is between the poster themselves (read the rules) and the mods whether the poster gets banned.

It isn't right for mods to blame non-mods. That's like a police officer seeing another police officer (giving the benefit of the doubt here) arresting someone and blaming the citizen who reports them. It's up to the police officer to make a professional decision. Yes being a mod isn't a job but it's a role (albeit a tough one) & it's the role of the mods to decide who gets banned, into trouble etc based on reports.


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24 Nov 2020, 8:05 am

Also, on other sites it's honestly pretty apt.

NTs don't tend to communicate like we do.

Most social media users are NT.

A far right NT isn't going to come out in full swastika mode and say 'gas the Jews'. Not unless they want to get banned/troll. They will speak in more subtle, dog whistle language.

Most users on WP are autistic. We tend to 'tell it how it is' (how it is through our eyes anyway).

I feel like if someone did have extreme Nazi views on here, they would actively state such views. And if they did that, I would report it.

It is ok to warn other users against dog whistle language though. If they use it and you notice it, ask them who they're listening to/engaging with. I would hate for someone to be indoctrinated through such language, use such language themselves and be seen in the wider world as a 'Nazi' etc simply because they haven't seen through the dog whistle.


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24 Nov 2020, 8:55 am

That's a new one. Wokezilla. There's lots of them around in real life.


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24 Nov 2020, 9:32 am

"Wokezilla" is an insult, too.


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24 Nov 2020, 9:35 am

How about "Modzilla"?

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