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I just quit smoking lately too, good luck!!

So, I just recently acquired a copy of the Book of Changes and I really wish I knew how that whole coin tossing thing at the end worked -- not that I think that it's a might omen or anything, I just want to mess around with it...

What do you know of it Bobby?

I have to confess an almost total ignorance of the Book of Changes. I have seen references to it on this thread and am certain that many potential posters will have better information than I can give.

From my limited understanding it is a guide to "knowing" how to stay with the flow of the universe through divination. A group of eight sticks, 4 long, 4 short are cast (sort of like dice, I guess) and the patterns they form give you information. The key to what those patterns mean are in the I Ching.

However, the advice in the I Ching is supposed to be very practical and wise, so I say, forget the sticks (unless you are into that sort of thing). The wisdom in the book is supposed to be "taoist."

Now, I'm going to have to read it!

ps. As to the alleged danger involved in using it, I tend to laugh that off. I do not know where good comes from, but I'm pretty sure that evil comes from our own perverted imaginations. If you know yourself you can play with almost any idea. I still believe that "no good girl was ever ruined by a bad book."

I think you would like it... the one I have has a foward from Carl Jung. He attributed it to being the foundation on a lot of his dark mind theories. Not that you would care, but I thought that was interesting. Yeah, like you mentioned earlier, Nory asked me about it some time ago, and I told her I was rather disenchanted with it because of a friend who read "my fortune" with coins, and to my dismay, it was rather repugnant.. Though, I would love to learn something about it; could be fun at parties??

Jay

Oh, I've got no problem with Jung (though I guess as a human being he was something of an a**hole). He was probably more compatible with spirituality than most other psychiatrists. I mean he DID write a forward to the I Ching.

well done stopping smoking averick

i ching is very good and brutally honest, it gives true answers, be ready

thanks bobby, i bought the wings of joy its great

jung attributes his insights into the human mind to studying the i ching and taoism etc, i think the i ching precedes taoism and it started with burning tortoise shells and studying the cracks or else someone saw the i ching on the shell of one, its lost in the mists of the past.

try this site maybe:
http://www.ichingconsultation.com/articles.html

What's going on Pixel8? How's life? Is that tiger being nice to you as yet? Still going strong for the anti-smoking, and I'm really not suffering. Cool link, thanks.
Bobby, those inferances make me laugh. How in real life it'd be grand to know you. I've had many frenamies, and it's earth-shakingly fantastic. Of course, no harm done. I've always needed the extra guidance, or so I've been told. Didn't you say once that you're a professor?
Sorry so juxtapose; morning coffee!! !

LOL my specs fell off while i was wasteed just as I was flushing the loo, i couldn't see for two days, that was my "lifting of the veil" this week. Chinese new year, spent it at Tai Chi, uber, costing me a few quid but worth it. Smoking, no sweat, getting off the white tiger, harder. But it's just the start. <3

Decided to give up ketamin as from last night, it was getting too scary.

Second week of tai chi and I've felt great after both sessions.

Next mission join an AS pub group.

Maybe even get a job one day.

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63
Act without doing;
work without effort.
Think of the small as large
and the few as many.
Confront the difficult
while it is still easy;
accomplish the great task
by a series of small acts.

The Master never reaches for the great;
thus she achieves greatness.
When she runs into a difficulty,
she stops and gives herself to it.
She doesn't cling to her own comfort;
thus problems are no problem for her.

Third week of Tai Chi.

I really believe Tai Chi and Qi Gong meditation are my Tao.
Anyone else do similar stuff?
Do you feel having an outward expression of the inner flow of chi helps you get closer to the Tao?
Do you feel the inner flow of chi experienced in meditation is what the Tao de jing talks about?

10

Can you balance your life force
And embrace the One
Without seperation?

Can you control your breath
Gently
Like a baby?

Can you clarify
Your dark vision
Without blemish?

Can you love people
And govern the country
Without knowledge?

Can you open and close
The gate of heaven
Without clinging to earth?

Can you brighten
The four directions
Without action?

Give birth and cultivate.
Give birth and do not possess.
Act without dependence.
Exel but do not rule.
This is called dark Te.
Shih wei hsuan te

I love Tai Chi and Qi Gong. Tai Chi is like being in heaven.

But I can't do sitting meditation at all....too much stimming and I can't get comfortable.

I settle for one good dump a day.

ruveyn

I failed at quitting smoking.

It's no big deal. Trust me. As long as you think that there's no big deal to it, you won't have any problem.

Don't feel bad Averick this wasn't my first attempt and it took a really scarey ketamine experience for me to finally let go of the "desire to smoke" and a good ketamine experience to embrace the "desire to breath" in order to learn tai chi and qi gong meditation. I only was able to let go of smoking because I had something I wanted more to grab onto, it involved little or no actual struggle or willpower once the decision was actually made for real.

When the decision is made the doing is easy. (Chinese proverb)

All things are hard before they're easy. (Another chinese proverb)