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04 Mar 2017, 12:36 pm

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Did Pence have any classified material on private email server or destroy evidence after being ordered to preserve it? Equating Hillary's responsibilities as a the Secretary of State to the Governor of Indiana is a false equivalence to begin with but what Hillary did was criminal and what Pence did is not. FWIW I do not think Pence is particularly trustworthy and he wasn't my choice for VP, he was the party 'unifying' pick that was forced on Trump. He might of had to do that to have won but you much rather have a real ally in that spot rather than a potential backstabber, just remember that getting rid of Trump gets you President Pence.


Clinton was an administrator at State, and Pence was the executive of Indiana. Governors have access to lots of sensitive information that relates to their state, and Pence discussed some of that on his private email account.

Not a private server; I think I got that part wrong in my first post, but it doesn't make much difference. It could be easier or more difficult to hack AOL than a private server, depending entirely on how it was set up.

There's no evidence that email relevant to the investigation was destroyed. Of course, it's impossible to prove conclusively that it wasn't, but that isn't a reasonable standard for continuing to make the claim.


Why Mike Pence’s private email account is way different from Hillary Clinton’s

Pence used non-government email to conduct official business and his email was hacked. While it is strongly believed Clinton's email was hacked there is supposedly no conclusive proof.
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Pence's account was actually hacked. In early 2016, hackers sent out a phishing email to his contacts claiming he and his wife were stranded in the Philippines, were attacked and robbed on their way back to their hotel and desperately needed money. Security experts told the Indianapolis Star it did not seem to be a hack specifically targeted at Pence, but they added that does not make a hack of a top government official's email account any less “concerning.”


While not exactly a double standard, certainly not an equal standard bieng applied to the two situations.


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04 Mar 2017, 2:23 pm

*sigh*

The issue with Hillary's email wasn't just that it was on a private server, it was more that she repeatedly lied and deceived about it. I wouldn't normally use such an ideological source, but National Review has a pretty good breakdown of why Pence's email setup wasn't comparable:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... erver-lies

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Here’s the Pence story in a nutshell — while governor of Indiana, he used his AOL account to conduct some state business, and that account was subject to a “broad” (not targeted) hack. His use of private e-mail was permitted by state law, he did not lie about it, and he did not handle any classified information on an unclassified system.


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She told falsehood after falsehood, earning Pinocchio after Pinocchio even from the left-leaning fact-checkers at the Washington Post. Some of the most egregious claims included falsely telling the public that she didn’t send or receive any classified information on her personal e-mail, and falsely telling the public that the FBI director himself had verified that her comments to the American people were truthful. Should we repeat some of her more memorable comments? On March 10, 2015, she said, “I did not e-mail any classified material to anyone on my e-mail. There is no classified material.” On February 4, 2016, Clinton said she “never sent or received any classified material.” She repeatedly denied sending or receiving e-mails “marked classified” (a curious distinction, since she’s legally obligated to protect both marked and unmarked classified information). This exchange, between Representative Trey Gowdy and FBI director Comey, sums up her honesty:

Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her e-mails either sent or received. Was that true?
Comey: That’s not true.
Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said, “I did not e-mail any classified material to anyone on my e-mail. There is no classified material.” Was that true?
Comey: There was classified material e-mailed. That classified material included seven e-mail chains containing information classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level.

And do we really need to continue into the more bizarre details of the FBI investigation, including evidence that Clinton aides destroyed her old devices with a hammer, that investigators couldn’t locate any of the 13 e-mail-capable mobile devices she used while secretary of state, or that staffers started deleting information from her server after the New York Times disclosed its existence?


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28 Mar 2017, 7:21 am

Chuck Schumer ‘Loses Cool’ With Trump Supporters In Restaurant 'Scene'

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Schumer allegedly ‘caused a scene’ at smart Upper East Side Manhattan restaurant, Sette Mezzo, when, according to Page Six, he began “yelling” at a connected Trump supporter that the president is “a liar.”
Witnesses said that prior to losing his cool, Schumer was dining quietly with friends.
But then he encountered Joseph A. Califano Jr. — the former U.S. secretary of health, education and welfare under President Jimmy Carter — and his wife, Hilary.
Page Six says that Schumer was apparently ‘incensed’ that Hilary had voted for Trump, even though her husband, Joseph, is a well-known Democrat.
A witness told Page Six: “They are a highly respected couple, and Schumer made a scene, yelling, ‘She voted for Trump!’ The Califanos left the restaurant, but Schumer followed them outside.”
The column claims that Schumer continued berating the couple on the sidewalk, saying: “How could you vote for Trump? He’s a liar!”
Hilary appeared to confirm the confrontation, telling Page Six, “Sen. Schumer was really rude . . . He’s our senator, and I don’t really like him. Yes, I voted for Trump. Schumer joined us outside and he told me Trump was a liar. I should have told him that Hillary Clinton was a liar, but I was so surprised I didn’t say anything.”


Now how he did know who she voted for? Did he have her survailed? :D


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28 Mar 2017, 7:27 am

I thought Schumer would of been better than Harry Reid but he's every bit the POS con artist, probably involved in some high level treason so he doesn't have any choice

surprised he didn't bust out in fake tears



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29 Mar 2017, 5:25 pm

There is no place for secrecy, under an assumption of volantaryism, transparency, and wars fought only for defensive purposes.

Otherwise, controls on speech and ideas undermine the basic precept of a democracy, which is informed consent.

People playing politics are ruling over your moral free agency, under the color of authority. Do you need their guidance, to make the right choices, or are you empowered as an individual.



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29 Mar 2017, 5:58 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Chuck Schumer ‘Loses Cool’ With Trump Supporters In Restaurant 'Scene'
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Schumer allegedly ‘caused a scene’ at smart Upper East Side Manhattan restaurant, Sette Mezzo, when, according to Page Six, he began “yelling” at a connected Trump supporter that the president is “a liar.”
Witnesses said that prior to losing his cool, Schumer was dining quietly with friends.
But then he encountered Joseph A. Califano Jr. — the former U.S. secretary of health, education and welfare under President Jimmy Carter — and his wife, Hilary.
Page Six says that Schumer was apparently ‘incensed’ that Hilary had voted for Trump, even though her husband, Joseph, is a well-known Democrat.
A witness told Page Six: “They are a highly respected couple, and Schumer made a scene, yelling, ‘She voted for Trump!’ The Califanos left the restaurant, but Schumer followed them outside.”
The column claims that Schumer continued berating the couple on the sidewalk, saying: “How could you vote for Trump? He’s a liar!”
Hilary appeared to confirm the confrontation, telling Page Six, “Sen. Schumer was really rude . . . He’s our senator, and I don’t really like him. Yes, I voted for Trump. Schumer joined us outside and he told me Trump was a liar. I should have told him that Hillary Clinton was a liar, but I was so surprised I didn’t say anything.”


Now how he did know who she voted for? Did he have her survailed? :D
probably because they told him?
Page Six wrote:
Another diner insists that Califano and his wife approached Sen. Schumer’s table. The diner said, “It was a pleasant conversation. Joe said the senator was doing a good job on health care. Joe joked that Hilary voted for Trump. The conversation continued outside because everyone left at the same time.”

your link is broken, and 2nd hand news: http://pagesix.com/2017/03/27/schumer-l ... estaurant/



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10 Apr 2017, 11:10 pm

Many people are sadly still suffering from it.

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This person is a college professor, being paid by the taxpayers to teach young Americans.

http://gunfreezone.net/index.php/2017/0 ... ull-glory/


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29 Apr 2017, 1:52 am

Darmok wrote:
Many people are sadly still suffering from it.

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This person is a college professor, being paid by the taxpayers to teach young Americans.

http://gunfreezone.net/index.php/2017/0 ... ull-glory/


Makes me even more pleased that I voted for him...
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29 Apr 2017, 5:24 pm

LOL -- the British media is pretty deranged too:

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29 Apr 2017, 5:34 pm

Darmok wrote:
LOL -- the British media is pretty deranged too:

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https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/85 ... 40/photo/1


Well Darmok,

While the OK sign is perfectly innocent in the USA to Americans who have grown up with it,
in other cultures, it means something else, that to put it delicately, is not OK. :mrgreen:

I wouldn't go so far as to proclaim it racist,
possibly a sign of cultural ignorance though.
That said, other cultures in the spirit of multiculturalism,
should know and accept
that in American society, the signal is innocent.



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29 Apr 2017, 5:46 pm

the_phoenix wrote:
in other cultures, it means something else, that to put it delicately, is not OK. :mrgreen:

I think that's what's going on here:

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29 Apr 2017, 7:19 pm

So are you guys not embarrassed by Trump's speech tonight at the Anti-White House Correspondents' Dinner?

He is such an oaf and people just lap it up.



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29 Apr 2017, 9:44 pm

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So are you guys not embarrassed by Trump's speech tonight at the Anti-White House Correspondents' Dinner?

He is such an oaf and people just lap it up.


Didn't watch it. I very rarely watch anything like that no matter who's in office. I doubt I'd be embarrassed, anyway, but if in the unlikely event I was embarrassed by whatever he said or did it would be offset by the pain and misery he is causing the left.


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30 Apr 2017, 1:13 am

Disclaimer: The following video may be triggering to anyone suffering Trump Derangement Syndrome, as it contains images of the crowd at the Trump rally in Harrisburg, PA chanting "CNN sucks." :mrgreen:



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Disclaimer: The following video may be triggering to anyone suffering Trump Derangement Syndrome, as it contains images of the crowd at the Trump rally in Harrisburg, PA chanting "CNN sucks." :mrgreen:


LOL, that's magnificent. :D

The corrupt, lying leftist media may be the biggest threat the country faces today.


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