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06 Jan 2021, 6:04 pm

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Was Belarus already a democracy?


In theory. Belarus held an election recently, and some people protested the result, which is why I made the comparison.



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06 Jan 2021, 6:12 pm

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If the scenes of ordinary people storming government buildings and getting shot at by police were happening in Belarus or Bolivia, most of you would support the protestors and say they were standing up for their democratic rights.

The general self-awareness levels on this sub-forum are close to zero.


Almost like these people aren't fighting for democracy, they're fighting against it. :wink:


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06 Jan 2021, 6:21 pm

hope this thread maintains a balance outlook on the issues around this election,
seems the numbers of mail in ballots literally it appears to have doubled in this election then a previous elections Appearing overnight. according to the news here . Particularily in Pennsylvanias election tabulations.
So am at a loss as to how these Elections should be approved until all the unusual variables have been examined . No love for either party but , there appears to be some questions that need to be addressed yet . :?:


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06 Jan 2021, 6:33 pm

Jakki wrote:
So am at a loss as to how these Elections should be approved until all the unusual variables have been examined . No love for either party but , there appears to be some questions that need to be addressed yet . :?:


There was no credible evidence the democrats were conducting anything remotely illegal. All these challenges were heralded by the Trump camp long before the election when it became clear democrat voters were encouraged to use mail votes to avoid spreading COVID.

It was always a tactic from Trump's book of "dirty tricks" to subvert a possible Democrat victory by invalidating mailed votes based on unsubstantiated claims of fraud.



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06 Jan 2021, 6:46 pm

I don't see any Republicans asking for votes to be examined in those areas they won or retained.
If voting fraud is supposed to be so rampant...

But yeah, absolutely from Trump's book of dirty tricks. He's been pushing this FUD ("Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt") about the election long before the voting started.


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06 Jan 2021, 6:54 pm

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I don't see any Republicans asking for votes to be examined in those areas they won or retained.


Which is a smoking gun



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06 Jan 2021, 6:57 pm

Yes indeed.


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06 Jan 2021, 7:13 pm

slam_thunderhide wrote:
If the scenes of ordinary people storming government buildings and getting shot at by police were happening in Belarus or Bolivia, most of you would support the protestors and say they were standing up for their democratic rights.

The general self-awareness levels on this sub-forum are close to zero.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Umm, these are radicalized trump supporters acting on trump’s lies that they believe.. big difference.


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06 Jan 2021, 7:30 pm

It does not matter to these people how many time the results are reviewed and re-reviewed. They have not cared that state governments have certified them. They do not care that international observers have certified them. They do not care that Trump's own judges have dismissed his claims as baseless.

They do not care about evidence or facts. Every time evidence comes out disproving claims of fraud, it's ignored or treated as part of the Grand Conspiracy.

They're deep, deep in denial.

They are dangerous.

Acting like they have good reasons for doing what they are doing and thinking what they are thinking is dangerous.


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06 Jan 2021, 7:56 pm

I have one relative in particular that posts stuff like the Democrats are trying to make it law you cannot use words like "Mother and Father" to be gender sensitive... I do not know anyone that really backs such an idea....


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06 Jan 2021, 8:15 pm

Jakki wrote:
hope this thread maintains a balance outlook on the issues around this election,
seems the numbers of mail in ballots literally it appears to have doubled in this election then a previous elections Appearing overnight. according to the news here . Particularily in Pennsylvanias election tabulations.
So am at a loss as to how these Elections should be approved until all the unusual variables have been examined . No love for either party but , there appears to be some questions that need to be addressed yet . :?:

It's almost as though there was some reason why huge numbers of people might have chosen to vote by post this time, eh?



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06 Jan 2021, 8:17 pm

People voted by mail primarily because of COVID---not out of feeling intimidated by other people.



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06 Jan 2021, 8:20 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
COVID


Ah yes, that would be it.

Was there a corresponding decrease in votes cast in person?

Do you know, I believe there was.



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06 Jan 2021, 8:35 pm

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People voted by mail primarily because of COVID---not out of feeling intimidated by other people.


Exactly and the kinds of people who listen to Trump are probably the kinds of people who voted in person because a lot of them are Covid-denier types.

So there'll be a difference in who votes via post vs who votes in person because of that.


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06 Jan 2021, 8:46 pm

KT67 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
People voted by mail primarily because of COVID---not out of feeling intimidated by other people.
Exactly and the kinds of people who listen to Trump are probably the kinds of people who voted in person because a lot of them are Covid-denier types.  So there will be a difference in who votes via post vs who votes in person because of that.
Something else to think about: Those same people are likely to contract the virus and become seriously ill; thus removing them from public activity for quite some time.

All those insurrectionists who attempted a coup today are going to really regret their actions in about 2-3 weeks.



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06 Jan 2021, 8:49 pm

Fnord wrote:
KT67 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
People voted by mail primarily because of COVID---not out of feeling intimidated by other people.
Exactly and the kinds of people who listen to Trump are probably the kinds of people who voted in person because a lot of them are Covid-denier types.  So there will be a difference in who votes via post vs who votes in person because of that.
Something else to think about: Those same people are likely to contract the virus and become seriously ill; thus removing them from public activity for quite some time.

All those insurrectionists who attempted a coup today are going to really regret their actions in about 2-3 weeks.



Won't that just be further proof that reality has a glaring left-wing bias? :mrgreen:


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