08 Aug 2007, 7:20 pm
08 Aug 2007, 7:22 pm
08 Aug 2007, 7:27 pm
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
calandale wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Christians are being Christians if they don't tell people that Jesus is the only way to God. .
Awesome. So go be a Christian.
Oops
I made a Blackberry typo. I mean't "aren't".If that is the case then you should just tell them once and leave it at that. If they then ask you to kindly STFU, you should do so.
No, that's not in the contract. If an individual says to say no more to them, that's fine. But no one can tell us not to share the Gospel with people, even though that's actually on the law books of many countries, and even in official policies all over the western world.
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Sopho wrote:
I'd like to be able to live my life without idiotic Christians going on and on at me about BS.
I like to live my life without having to be kicked into a corner every time someone asks my views on gays! But we don't all get what we want. Before I tell you all my views, I always prepare to be blasted with your rude anti-Christic intollerence, and it always comes through as expected.
08 Aug 2007, 7:29 pm
calandale wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
calandale wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Christians are being Christians if they don't tell people that Jesus is the only way to God. .
Awesome. So go be a Christian.
Oops
I made a Blackberry typo. I mean't "aren't".Now, how do you know that wasn't God expressing
his true will, through your errors?
Because He used you to bring my attention to them, and now you'll see that the original post has been corrected.
08 Aug 2007, 7:30 pm
08 Aug 2007, 7:31 pm
08 Aug 2007, 7:35 pm
greenblue wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Paul said Christians can't marry non-Christians.
I don't remember well my Biblical studies as a kid, I thought Paul said it was better not to marry at all.
I also remember that Paul was a misogynist.
No, he just wasn't a feminist. Nothing wrong with that -- neither am I. It doesn't mean I beat my wife, or stone her if she sleeps with another man, nor would I do so if it was the custom. That'd be cruel!! !
He said to love our wives like our own bodies, and like Christ loves Christians. Yeah, a real misogynist! 
well, I do remember he objectified women as sexual objects and therefore, not being treated equal because they were objects of temptation, as at the time even having sexual thoughts was a sin. Probably hating wouldn't be exactly the right word, but obviously they were considered inferior at the time, and Paul indeed considered them inferior. I think some people see that as mysoginy.
I have a few examples:
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For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.
Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
1 Corinthians 11:7-9
For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.
Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
1 Corinthians 11:7-9
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Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
1 Corinthians 14:34-35
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
1 Corinthians 14:34-35
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Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Ephesians 5:22-23
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Ephesians 5:22-23
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Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
Ephesians 5:33
Ephesians 5:33
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Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
1 Timothy 2:11-15
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
1 Timothy 2:11-15
And, as one who knows Scripture, I can tell you that these are the very worst treatments of women recommended in the New Testament. They are recommended offices/behaviours for women, as husbands ARE supposed to be the heads of their marriages, and lead their wives, who ARE supposed to submit their wills to their husbands. And the Prime Minister of Britain is supposed to lead that nation's people -- does that mean he hates them? Obviously not, or the people would overthrow the government. And you're right, these excerpts aren't misogynistic (which means "hateful of women"), so I accept your apology for saying that Paul was.
08 Aug 2007, 7:39 pm
08 Aug 2007, 7:40 pm
08 Aug 2007, 7:40 pm
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Precisely "how" they're better at sucking cock is inelocutable, of course, but I think it's still true.
How could you ever know that?
How could YOU ever know that God doesn't exist?
08 Aug 2007, 7:41 pm
Ragtime wrote:
calandale wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
calandale wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Christians are being Christians if they don't tell people that Jesus is the only way to God. .
Awesome. So go be a Christian.
Oops
I made a Blackberry typo. I mean't "aren't".Now, how do you know that wasn't God expressing
his true will, through your errors?
Because He used you to bring my attention to them, and now you'll see that the original post has been corrected.
So I am God? Funny how close we are getting
in our views.
08 Aug 2007, 7:42 pm
Ragtime wrote:
calandale wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Precisely "how" they're better at sucking cock is inelocutable, of course, but I think it's still true.
Unlikely, really. Not just the experience issue,
nor desire (which is one of the points that many
queers bring up - that they really enjoy - but
some women do too), but also likely mouth
size.
Depends on the particular guy or girl giving, and also on the particular guy receiving.
True, but you had made claims as to not
having a wee willie, as I remember.
08 Aug 2007, 7:43 pm
calandale wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
calandale wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
The world has always tried to silence Christians, through as extreme means as were available to them at the time.
Aww. You poor Christians.
Aw, you poor homosexuals.
I bet most gay people get more sh** for being gay than you've ever had for being a Christian.
Seriously doubt that.
Were you bullied in school for being Christian? Did you lose 'friends' for being Christian? Did your family not accept you for being Christian?
Yes to all three, and I'll continue to lose people, opportunities, money, and possessions for living out my morality.
Are you so sure it was your
mere morality, and not your
personality?
The ones I'm thinking of were all definitely spiritual.
Indeed? I can't imagine spiritual things driving your
family away.
Oh well.
08 Aug 2007, 7:46 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Precisely "how" they're better at sucking cock is inelocutable, of course, but I think it's still true.
How could you ever know that?
How could YOU ever know that God doesn't exist?
I also ask that question
How can you know that God doesn't exist
and
How can you know that God does exist.
08 Aug 2007, 7:47 pm
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