Why is there so much liberal hate?

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Liberals do the same things Conservatives do. Like Smear campigns and how they think their soooooooooooo. Smart and yet they propose Unconstitutional things that. Go against how our Nation works.

Slow down bro. Run your posts through Word if you have to, but your grammar is literally falling apart more and more with each post. It's not a race, Joker - take some time to be able to express yourself clearly.

I guess it's a coincidence that my dog is a pit bull.

That aside, we happen to have a chihuahua in the whitehouse so maybe the pit bulls don't have such an advantage after all.

My Grammar has gotten a little better. I am relearning what I was taught in school. It's not secret that I struggle how to use proper Grammar.

"But I take it you have nothing to say"'. About what I said to Marshall'.

What about employment and education background? Or is that considered "xenophobic" for some crazy reason?



The line needs to be drawn somewhere, and the "morality" of the dregs of society is not the one to set it. Most civilized people in the world (technological or not) would consider the actions of Breivik horrifying regardless of whatever his motivations were. His motivations were very likely self serving. Look at his history, and the image he intended to portray to people with his faggy self portraits and rambling, paraphrased manifesto



"Don't mercilessly kill people's children" seems to be pretty much a universally agreed thing. If society just accepts every single action because the individual who perpetrated it believed they were in the right, you and I and everyone else will understand what Abandon hope all ye who enter here really means



Giving him serious consideration as a political icon is insulting the very concept of modern politics. The only reasonable way to deal with this man is as a spree killer, nothing more. He does not deserve to be put on a pedestal. That is exactly what he wants. He needs to rot in a cell for the rest of his miserable life



70-80% of those involved in the revolution is a minority? What does it matter whether the revolutionaries had allies? What does this have to do with a mass murderer with a penchant for homoerotic self portraits and unoriginal manifestos?



That is pretty interesting and rather tragic, but typical of frontier warfare that long predates the American revolutionaries. This massacre would be a better analogue to Breivik actually killing Muslims. If the Yankees went all the way to Britain and massacred British children it might be a closer thing

No, trust me, not painful at all.
I would imagine that if we ever got an opportunity to discuss something other than politics or social matters, we'd probably be in agreement much of the time.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

^^^
you are very noble. a better man than me.

Thanks for the compliment.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Che's views changed quite a bit throughout his life. What you see there are his earliest writings when he was a young man travelling throughout the continent, and this was the first time he was exposed to those things - hence those writings are only his initial opinions - his opinions changed markedly throughout his life, as can be viewed in his personal letters to his second wife.

Later in Cuba Che had a mulata mistress (Zoila Rodríguez) who also acted as his second in comand for quite a period of time when in the east of the country before the 26th of July movement prevailed and started to rule the country. The country wide literacy programs where also his idea - and he was one of the main people to implement them. Even before that, when in the sierra mastera he would often help and teach his comrades who were illiterate to read and write. In the Congo, the cubans he lead there were all mulattos and negros - many of whom were handpicked by him and who he had great respect for. When in Bolivia he was also reliant on the campesinos, many of whom were indios and many who joined his attachment. Clearly for him to have done these things his attitude to women, indios, negros and other minorities cannot have been that bad.

As do I. And I also think we should disallow the exporting of oil refined by American companies on US soil(which is contributing to the high price of gasoline at the pump DESPITE a surplus in the actual supply of refined oil).

I have no idea what you're on about. Unfortunately, their proposals don't seem to mean closing public islamic schools. That means I'm still paying for them to learn qur'an verses instead of reading, writing and maths. I'm also still paying for the school counselor who refers homosexuals to imams for pray-the-gay-away therapy.



No line can be reasonably drawn. You can't objectively distinguish between morals on a scale of right or wrong. "Most civilized people in the world", in your case, means "most people I think are civilized in the world". The people who wouldn't object to what Breivik did probably wouldn't agree with your idea of morality. Your idea of morality is widespread, and even I largely agree with it, but it's not a universal truth.



Tell that to the Taliban, or to any side of Syria's current conflict, or to rebel factions in Liberia, or in Nigeria, or Congo, or Sudan. The people who are in charge there don't necessarily agree with that statement. I was recently linked to a documentary about Liberia that managed to completely convince me it was the worst place on earth - Sodom and Gomorrah but worse - with children on heroin, children murdered and eaten by rebels in ceremonies, the worst slums imaginable, and widespread and approved-of rape in makeshift brothels with no electricity. Their idea of morality is practically very different from yours about the merciless killing of children.



Of those involved. I take it you're counting those not involved as human waste, or slaves, or second-class white men. Had it been very popular as an uprising, most of the actual people would have been involved rather than most of those who actually had the time and means to take up arms under the leadership of some of the continent's wealthiest men.



They didn't just murder them. They accused them of participating in raids, of making them an easier target for the British.
Breivik accused the Norwegian Labour Party of being part of a fifth column.

Cut off our gas, and we'll shut off your water and electricity. Also your oil, so those refineries will run dry.

I just read something amazing. In Amsterdam, one in eight people are now officially mentally handicapped.
Of all children in special education for cognitive difficulties there, 80% are either Moroccan or Turkish.
And apparently, those aren't all there are, because their group culture doesn't always allow them to admit that their children are mentally ret*d.

Holy pejoratives Batman!

Is there a prejudicial concept of "mentally handicapped" at work there?

ruveyn

Of course it can, and has been. Its like you are pretending laws with ethical basis passed in nations around the world don't exist and this discussion of morality is the first of its kind. You don't seem to understand: What Breivik and others like him think is right or wrong is completely irrelevant.



Again, what does this have to do with Breivik? I have made it abundantly clear that I understand some people are morally bankrupt, and furthermore, that what they think is right or wrong does not matter to me or the overwhelming majority of the human race. You are arguing on behalf of perhaps a few thousand people who share Breivik's mindset. So your minority's moral relativism can suck it, buddy



Absolutely not, that is not what I said at all. I said they were not involved because they were either ambivalent or non-political. Do not put words in my mouth. I have also pointed out the statistics of involvement in the revolution are basically the same as statistics for US voter turnout to this day. So you need to either expand your criteria for criticizing political parties as "not popular" or drop this fallacious argument



Like pretty much any other massacre of the time period from either side. And yes, Breivik was insane and delusional, and you are attempting to justify his actions, I understand. I hope someday you will be given the opportunity to try and explain this to one of the survivors of his shooting or bombing. I am sure they would love to hear this from you.

You say this as if he's some politically correct fanatic who has double standards on Christian and Islamic terrorism. Did he not make it clear that Breivik is no different than an Islamic extremist? But then again, what more can I expect from a dude who thinks everyone that finds Breivik's actions inexcusable is a liberal?

Speaking of labeling everyone who disagrees with your backwards ass sentiments as a liberal, in case you didn't know I've ranted incessantly about race baiting in this forum and I'm on the right side of the political spectrum. But you are so blatantly bigoted that even an anti-PC dude like me has to call you out on it. I do think the plight of blacks for example come partly from ghetto subcultural norms which encourage irresponsibility and ignorance. I've been called a racist over that. But there's absolutely no ifs, buts, and maybes when it comes to you.