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While the left does the same to remove and alter any mention of the 2nd amendment and other bill of rights.

[Citation needed]

We can tap-dance around this all we want but it still gets back to licensed privilege as opposed to enumerated constitutional right. If you think our constriction is archaic, non-relevant, or just icky, then move to where they don’t have one and whoever’s in power rules by decree.


What things about the internet do you think need to be regulated?


Depends on who’s using them and for what purpose. Shooting a gun is really not like playing COD and there is some skill involved. In some cases a hammer can be a more desirable killing weapon.
1. Quieter
2. Much cheaper
3. Easier to obtain
4. The satisfaction and sheer joy of personally and up close stoving someone’s skull in that just can’t be experienced by using any gun.

BTW, I sense a lot of arger here with all these accusations of stupidity.
Hmm....


Most all of gun show sales are from FFL (Federal Firearms License) dealers and they go through ALL the steps for each sale. Trust me.
Private sales are a much smaller part of gun show sales. The ATF is not going to issue an FFL to an individual just so they can sell their granddaddy’s old Fox Sterlingworth shotgun for the money to buy a new TV. That’s pretty much what you are proposing.
A red tape nightmare and for what, just so you can “feel” better? Not.

You and yours here to this day have not provided any rationale for the additional gun laws you want. “I want” or “this is how they do it in Northern Slobovia” or “I think gunz are icky” are not rationale.

The fact that there have been all the guns sales there have been since your boy Barack took office and no subsequent rises in gun crime speak volumes.

My “cherry picked” examples clearly contradict your “liberals are not anti-freedom” statement. And I can find more examples (if I feel like it) that have nothing to do with campuses. I chose them to demonstrate how liberals are poisoning education to shape (or eliminate) free thought.


Well no $hit Sherlock.
Conservatives don’t preach about freedom every time they open their pie holes, either, so there’s not nearly the hypocrisy as when liberals screech about it.
Here’s the definition of Liberal.

Lib·er·al (lĭb′ər-əl, lĭb′rəl)
adj.
1.
a. Favoring reform, open to new ideas, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; not bound by traditionalthinking; broad-minded. See Synonyms at broad-minded.

I find nothing in new ideas, tolerance, or broadminded that supports censorship.
That’s the whole point.

As expected, I see you tossed segregation and slavery in there for affect. I guess your next response will be that to defend free speech is to defend racism or whatever…

are these guys talking about it purely for effect also?

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/12/ten_con ... d_slavery/

I do not know.

What I do know is, Louisiana is more than half Black, they suffer most of the results of Black on Black crime, have a very high murder rate, live in the most dangerous neighborhoods, and this law change applies to them, giving them the legal ability to take back their neighborhoods.

Highest national murder rate in the City and State. The half white system cannot protect them.

For a long time young Black men had a gunshot death rate equal to Vietnam Soldiers.

Until Juarez Mexico and San Pedro Sula Honduras grabbed the record, we were highest in the Western Hemisphere.

A well regulated militia being necessary for the defense of a free people, Government shall make no law infringing on The People's Right to keep and bear arms.

This is A Civil Rights Act. It recognizes the right of our fellow citizens to self and group defense.

Nothing we have done has worked, it is up to the Black Community to change things.

All of our Juries are half Black.

80% of Black people are just fine folks, very southern in their culture. While America had conflict over color, in New Orleans it was resolved by letting White People into Black Restaurants, through the front door.

We trust our fellow Citizens to be carrying a Concealed firearm in all public places.

The Black Panthers tried this, didn't really work then either. a better solution would be dialing back the militarization of police and correcting for institutional prejudice.

Sensitive, me? You're the one that keeps calling me a troll. Accusations of being a troll or a bully typically come from the one that is all sensitive and butthurt.
Did I call you a troll?

Sorry, I’m not used to arguing with fish.


I sense more anger.



Please keep it up.

You know, for a group of people (i.e. 'Aspies') who are supposed to be rational and able to keep their emotions in check when debating whatever it is that interests them, there sure are a lot of people here who allow their emotions to overwhelm them.

PRESIDENT Obama is not 'weak'. During his time in office he was constantly frustrated in his attempts to introduce reforms, by the Republicans. They would oppose whatever he supported, and for no other reason than the fact that they didn't like him and could block him. They always were, and always will be, obstructionists.

Do you know who is really weak? That neo-Nazi rabble-rouser Donald Trump. He has no clue, no brains, but a mouth that just will not close. He doesn't care about the sheeple who support him and, in all likelihood, holds them in complete contempt.

Yes, it's really awful isnt it.
Tisk, tisk, tisk...

Yeah, we're really terrible.
Next.

AR15000, the problems you have in your country are caused by those who seem to still be living in the Old West, who have the mentality that force and violence can actually solve problems. I see it all the time in the horrendously violent shows that your country exports to us, where every four seconds someone is being shot or blown away. When the adverts for these shows come on, they almost always show someone pointing a gun (usually just off to the side of the cameraman). Since WW2 your country has been involved in more mayhem and destruction than all other nations put together.

Look, do us all a favour, and keep your moronic 'right to bear arms' to yourselves. You can go on killing each other as much as you like if you want to (and as long as the 2nd Amendment remains, this will continue to happen), but don't expect the rest of the world to either understand or accept your corrupt 'values'. The rest of the world has moved on since the 19th century.

I haven't seen much from you that could fall under the definition of rational. By your opening volley in this thread I'd say you were posting just to trigger an emotional response. Might have worked on some but not on me.


He is weak in two ways
Weak because the s**t he wants to put through has no chance with any congress.
Weak because he lacks the charisma needed to be a team player and win support.


Agreed, but he still might end up being the next guy your PM will have to suck up to in order to stay in our good graces.
Gee, I love being a citizen of the most powerful nation on the face of the earth.

you skipped over my rebuttals and instead make pithy comments. good to see you've matured and aren't being petty

^ Just what is it that you expect from a "concern troll"?
Or am I another kind of troll today?

We do not have any control over the Federal Government. They are the ones militarizing the police. Institutional prejudice would seem to be having laws that do not give equal treatment to all.

It is not the police killing 400 Black men a year in New Orleans, it is Black men.

Fairly recent history for us, been here since 1500, the White on White murder rate was just as high until recently.

A lot of it seems to do with economic condition, poor people kill each other, rich people sue.

According to The Constitution, as amended, Blacks and Women are also The People mentioned therein.

We cannot make everyone economically equal, culturally, 250 years ago Whites were murdering each other, less than a quarter could even read their name, and many Black people were still in Africa.

Blacks are now about as literate as Whites were during WWII. Like everyone else their incomes have declined since 1970. Young Black women are over represented in University Degrees, and Government jobs.

The Rights of Citizenship are what make the Obligations bearable.

This aint addressed to me but I'm gonna give it a twirl anyhoo. Sue me.

1. You actually believe what all you see in any movie?
2. If we're exporting those movies to Australia it can only be due to a demand for them by your fellow aussies.
3. Why do you actually watch those horrendously violent movies?!?! I guess this is kind of like American liberals listening to Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck just so they'll have an outlet for all the hate they harbor.

Had it not been for US presence in the pacific during WW2 Australia would have fallen to Japan plain and simple and I don't think yall would have enjoyed Japanese occupation. They've done things in the occupied lands that would make a German puke.
Since WW2 Australia has had a hand in some of that mayhem right along side the evil USA.

We do keep it to ourselves but people like you that don't even live here keep pinging on it in this forum as if bullets are capable of transoceanic flight. I have no desire to come to Australia and try to convert you or yours. Do yourself a favour and don't worry about what we do over here because we are going to keep on doing it anyway.

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