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26 Jan 2017, 5:33 pm

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Well this is B.S, I guess science and facts are 'offensive' to the trump administration.
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/trump-administration-orders-communications-blackout-for-us-scientists/

Lol if any of you trump supporters here can convince me this is a good move, then I will compliment your amazing debate skills.... :roll: Why shouldn't scientists be able to keep the public aware of environmental issues? Besides since one of Trump and his supporters big things was how he has no filter and challenges political correctness I figured that would tie over to not being a fan of any censorship...well what is this?

hypocrisy?


It was rescinded. According to this article, it doesn't look like it originated from Trump.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/dinograndoni/t ... .mp8YwAXJM


Well good it damn well should be rescinded.

And the order must have originated from his administration if not him...so either he needs to get control of his administration and tell them to tone down the police state behavior, if he truly was ignorant of this and didn't mean for it to happen. Or he's just as guilty of approving those actions being put in place.


That's your debate rebuttal? I'd work on that.

The article I posted also tells exactly who sent it out - it wasn't Trump.


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26 Jan 2017, 6:02 pm

I've been thinking of doing this for a while now, but I've been wanting to try to "re-educate" my brain to be more positive. So to do this, I purchased "The Power of Positive Thinking" by Norman Vincent Peale and I just started it last night. Why did I post in this thread? Because it is one of President Trump's favorite books! :mrgreen: The book has received a 5/5 star rating. I'll let y'all know if it works!

http://www.usnews.com/news/slideshows/1 ... es?slide=3


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26 Jan 2017, 6:09 pm

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I've been thinking of doing this for a while now, but I've been wanting to try to "re-educate" my brain to be more positive. So to do this, I purchased "The Power of Positive Thinking" by Norman Vincent Peale and I just started it last night. Why did I post in this thread? Because it is one of President Trump's favorite books! :mrgreen: The book has received a 5/5 star rating. I'll let y'all know if it works!

http://www.usnews.com/news/slideshows/1 ... es?slide=3

I know a little bit about the power of affirmations, and I honestly don't know whether to feel really hopeful or really afraid. Either way, I'll watch this space for updates, and I wish you the best of luck!

Regarding the science suppression, I believe Trump, or people acting in his interest did intend to do what we suspect. He doesn't want any news coming out that could cause people to criticize him, and this seemed like a way to prevent that. When it created a lot of criticism, they reversed course. It's a lesson.


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26 Jan 2017, 6:11 pm

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Well this is B.S, I guess science and facts are 'offensive' to the trump administration.
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/trump-administration-orders-communications-blackout-for-us-scientists/

Lol if any of you trump supporters here can convince me this is a good move, then I will compliment your amazing debate skills.... :roll: Why shouldn't scientists be able to keep the public aware of environmental issues? Besides since one of Trump and his supporters big things was how he has no filter and challenges political correctness I figured that would tie over to not being a fan of any censorship...well what is this? hypocrisy?

First-of-all, your provided link references "Buzz Feed" (totally credible - NOT); secondly:

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They did not explicitly reference President Trump or his new administration…

Then, they said this:

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References to climate change have been eradicated from the White House website...

It's awful funny that a quick search on the White House website, using the word "environment", turned-up NINE articles----including one, regarding "climate change".

THEN, I checked-out the BuzzFeed reference (to which your article linked), and found THIS:

BuzzFeed News wrote:
The US Department of Agriculture has banned scientists and other employees in its main research division from publicly sharing everything from the summaries of scientific papers to USDA-branded tweets as it starts to adjust to life under the Trump administration, BuzzFeed News has learned.
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The ban was rescinded on Tuesday.
Emphasis, mine.

So, yeah, the sky is TOTALLY falling----for the forty-millionth time, this week!!




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26 Jan 2017, 6:17 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
I've been thinking of doing this for a while now, but I've been wanting to try to "re-educate" my brain to be more positive. So to do this, I purchased "The Power of Positive Thinking" by Norman Vincent Peale and I just started it last night. Why did I post in this thread? Because it is one of President Trump's favorite books! :mrgreen: The book has received a 5/5 star rating. I'll let y'all know if it works!

http://www.usnews.com/news/slideshows/1 ... es?slide=3

I know a little bit about the power of affirmations, and I honestly don't know whether to feel really hopeful or really afraid. Either way, I'll watch this space for updates, and I wish you the best of luck!

Regarding the science suppression, I believe Trump, or people acting in his interest did intend to do what we suspect. He doesn't want any news coming out that could cause people to criticize him, and this seemed like a way to prevent that. When it created a lot of criticism, they reversed course. It's a lesson.


Not to take the thread off course, but I read "The Secret" and I have to say that as long as I kept a positive way of thought, really good things came my way. I even had it on dvd and played it at certain times. I think it works, but you have to always refer back to it for reinforcement, otherwise, you revert right back to the negative thinking again.

Since a lot of Aspies know science, I'd like to know why is it so easy for the brain to think negative and hard for it to keep thinking positive?


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26 Jan 2017, 6:28 pm

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Since a lot of Aspies know science, I'd like to know why is it so easy for the brain to think negative and hard for it to keep thinking positive?


A heightened ability in threat assessment evolved over hundreds of thousands of years of survival and conflict? Ever notice how much more alert you are to potential danger when you're alone at night? <insert stalking joke>



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26 Jan 2017, 6:33 pm

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Well good it damn well should be rescinded.

And the order must have originated from his administration if not him...so either he needs to get control of his administration and tell them to tone down the police state behavior, if he truly was ignorant of this and didn't mean for it to happen. Or he's just as guilty of approving those actions being put in place.

It's really a shame when people don't thoroughly read their own linked articles.




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26 Jan 2017, 6:37 pm

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nurseangela wrote:
Since a lot of Aspies know science, I'd like to know why is it so easy for the brain to think negative and hard for it to keep thinking positive?


A heightened ability in threat assessment evolved over hundreds of thousands of years of survival and conflict? Ever notice how much more alert you are to potential danger when you're alone at night? <insert stalking joke>

Interesting. Statistically, life goes well most of the time. I feel like that was true for early man, too, even though they faced much more danger. If you're alive, then you got enough to eat, stayed warm, and got some sleep; things are going well, as such. The dangers come out of nowhere without warning, and their severity outweighs their infrequency. This means that there is a survival value in thinking that something might go wrong when things seem good. If you keep looking over your shoulder ten times, you aren't enjoying thinking about all the meat you're getting off a carcass, but you might spot the tiger sneaking up on you.

I don't really like a lot of evolutionary psychology, but this one works for me.


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26 Jan 2017, 6:40 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:
Regarding the science suppression, I believe Trump, or people acting in his interest did intend to do what we suspect. He doesn't want any news coming out that could cause people to criticize him, and this seemed like a way to prevent that. When it created a lot of criticism, they reversed course. It's a lesson.

Well, well, well----someone else who didn't thoroughly read the article.....







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26 Jan 2017, 6:40 pm

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nurseangela wrote:
Since a lot of Aspies know science, I'd like to know why is it so easy for the brain to think negative and hard for it to keep thinking positive?


A heightened ability in threat assessment evolved over hundreds of thousands of years of survival and conflict? Ever notice how much more alert you are to potential danger when you're alone at night? <insert stalking joke>


Not done with this topic. I don't get what you mean with the survival/conflict stuff. I once read the brain does not "see" negative words like can't or won't, etc., which makes me wonder why doesn't the brain just automatically think in positive language? But in order to think more positive, a person has to actually "re-educate" their brain with positive words that they say to themselves over and over again. According to that book, you also need to "see yourself the way you want to be" and The Secret book said the same thing. The Bible ties into it too and both books bring up God and the Bible - like "Whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it and it shall be yours". If you think you already have it, it will come to you. It's all very interesting!

Let me start another thread on this.....


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26 Jan 2017, 6:41 pm

Not only is Trump calling for an investigation into this non existent voter fraud (he actually got that notion from a golfing buddy) which even congressional Republicans know isn't true, but he's also calling people, who point out that our taking of Iraq's oil would be a war crime, fools, and that we might still have a chance to take it. That would mean a permanent occupying force in Iraq. So much for Trump disentangling us from that part of the world.


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26 Jan 2017, 6:51 pm

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Since a lot of Aspies know science, I'd like to know why is it so easy for the brain to think negative and hard for it to keep thinking positive?

Well, I don't think of myself as "good at science"----but, I'll take a stab, at it.....

It's so much easier to be dismissive of something, by saying "Life sucks", or "Why do these things always happen to me?"----BUT, looking for "the silver lining" can be a bit tedious, at times; so, since negative takes less energy.....






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26 Jan 2017, 6:55 pm

IFL Science wrote:
They did not explicitly reference President Trump or his new administration…

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Here's the full paragraph:

Full paragraph in the article:

"They did not explicitly reference President Trump or his new administration, but this is the only authority such a widespread gagging order could have originated from. However, at the time of writing, the administrator of the scientific wing of the USDA rescinded this muzzling order."

This is why you shouldn't cherry pick quotes.

Considering that he nominated the Exxon CEO and Russian Order of Friendship recipient Rex Tillerson for Secretary of State any change to the EPA or environmental policy at all will be rightfully looked at with suspicion.



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26 Jan 2017, 7:03 pm

nurseangela wrote:
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nurseangela wrote:
Since a lot of Aspies know science, I'd like to know why is it so easy for the brain to think negative and hard for it to keep thinking positive?


A heightened ability in threat assessment evolved over hundreds of thousands of years of survival and conflict? Ever notice how much more alert you are to potential danger when you're alone at night? <insert stalking joke>


Not done with this topic. I don't get what you mean with the survival/conflict stuff. I once read the brain does not "see" negative words like can't or won't, etc., which makes me wonder why doesn't the brain just automatically think in positive language? But in order to think more positive, a person has to actually "re-educate" their brain with positive words that they say to themselves over and over again. According to that book, you also need to "see yourself the way you want to be" and The Secret book said the same thing. The Bible ties into it too and both books bring up God and the Bible - like "Whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it and it shall be yours". If you think you already have it, it will come to you. It's all very interesting!

Let me start another thread on this.....


When they said the brain doesn't see negative words, they don't mean negative as in bad they mean things like the word "not" and "no."

For example.

If I said "I don't want to go to the store." A person would subconsciously hear "I want to go to the store." there is a very small delay from reacting to when you hear something to when you can process it logically with the appropriate negative word.



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26 Jan 2017, 7:11 pm

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Not only is Trump calling for an investigation into this non existent voter fraud (he actually got that notion from a golfing buddy) which even congressional Republicans know isn't true, but he's also calling people, who point out that our taking of Iraq's oil would be a war crime, fools, and that we might still have a chance to take it. That would mean a permanent occupying force in Iraq. So much for Trump disentangling us from that part of the world.


I'm all for President Trump doing this investigation. He already won so there is more to this that he hopes to clear up. The Democrats have been against cleaning up the voter registration information for years - why is this? I think it is time to put all of the actual dead voters to rest.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-president ... n-network/


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26 Jan 2017, 7:16 pm

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Since a lot of Aspies know science, I'd like to know why is it so easy for the brain to think negative and hard for it to keep thinking positive?


A heightened ability in threat assessment evolved over hundreds of thousands of years of survival and conflict? Ever notice how much more alert you are to potential danger when you're alone at night? <insert stalking joke>


Not done with this topic. I don't get what you mean with the survival/conflict stuff. I once read the brain does not "see" negative words like can't or won't, etc., which makes me wonder why doesn't the brain just automatically think in positive language? But in order to think more positive, a person has to actually "re-educate" their brain with positive words that they say to themselves over and over again. According to that book, you also need to "see yourself the way you want to be" and The Secret book said the same thing. The Bible ties into it too and both books bring up God and the Bible - like "Whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it and it shall be yours". If you think you already have it, it will come to you. It's all very interesting!

Let me start another thread on this.....


When they said the brain doesn't see negative words, they don't mean negative as in bad they mean things like the word "not" and "no."

For example.

If I said "I don't want to go to the store." A person would subconsciously hear "I want to go to the store." there is a very small delay from reacting to when you hear something to when you can process it logically with the appropriate negative word.


That's what I meant by "negative" words. That still doesn't explain it. Since the brain thinks that way, then the person should "want to go to the store", but no, I know I think "Crap, I have to go to the store. I don't want to go. Better get it done." Why do I not feel positive about it? If I really think "Hey! I want to go to the store", and I keep repeating that actual positive line to my brain, I feel more like going.

(I started a new thread)


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