Why do people want Trump?

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The Left is rather a broad church. They don't necessarily have a more liberal attitude to sexuality than the Right. Historically, grass-roots feminists called for "votes for women and chastity for men." More recently the Left has embraced a hard line on sexual harrassment and child porn. Back in the Swinging 60s there may have been a difference such as you describe, but I think the Left has moved on from that now.

This feeling that we voted him into office and YOU, elite chumps have to endure him.. no matter what you do..
this is pure gold.

Because Leftie elites are throwing tantrum after tantrum. OMB
and for hoi polloi its better than gladiator games.
This feeling that we voted him into office and YOU, elite chumps have to endure him.. no matter what you do..
this is pure gold.

Everyone, rich & poor alike, had to tolerate the orange guy for 4 years. He was only really any good for very wealthy people that got tax cuts, other than that he screwed things up for all kinds of regular people from farmers to gay kids. Not sure what there is to celebrate about that.

I think, the ones suffering from TDS will have tough time.
There is a fair chance to get elected for him, taking into account how Dems are screwing up the things..
They re up a bloodbath in midterms.
So many of them retiring so they do not need to face loss, hard to find anyone to run as Dem, especially in red or purple states..
Mean tweets will return.
And now, this will be completely different Trump.
I wish him his vengeance.

He might become ineligible to run if he's convicted of certain crimes.

So, how difficult is it for an incarcerated person to run for president? Not very, at least from a legal standpoint.

“When we’re talking about federal office, the limitations would really be political, not legal,” said Kate Shaw, a professor of law at Cardozo Law. “The Constitution actually is really clear about what the qualifications to run for president, or a member of Congress or Senate are.”

Those qualifications—listed in Article Two of the Constitution—include being a natural born citizen, being at least 35 years old, and having lived at least 14 years as a resident of the United States. A potential candidate’s carceral status, however, is not listed in the Constitution as a requirement, nor is a candidate’s criminal record. A Trump who has been convicted by the state or federal government of a crime, then, is equally qualified to run as a Trump with no criminal record—at least from a legal standpoint.

Furthermore, a state that tries to add a requirement to the presidency disqualifying candidates with criminal convictions from running would likely be shut down by the courts. That was the case in 2019, when the California Supreme Court ruled that a California law requiring presidential candidates to disclose their tax returns in order to be eligible to run for president—a direct challenge to President Trump’s refusal to make public his own returns—was unconstitutional.

Trump could have been barred from running for any federal office, including president, if he had been convicted in one of his two impeachment trials. He was acquitted in both on the basis of his support among Republican Senators. A conviction for a state or federal crime offers no such burden.

Indeed, at least three incarcerated people have run for U.S. president before with no legal obstacles. In 1920, Socialist Party leader Eugene V. Debs ran while incarcerated for charges related to his protesting against World War I. Another candidate, Lyndon LaRouche, ran in 1992 while incarcerated for tax evasion and mail fraud. And yet another, Keith Judd, managed to be included on the ballot—and win 41 percent of the vote against incumbent president Barack Obama—in West Virginia’s Democratic primary while incarcerated as recently as 2012.

The difficulty for a Trump re-election bid, if he were to be convicted of a crime, comes instead from public perception and the politics of running for president with a criminal record, plus the logistical obstacles of campaigning or taking the oath of office from prison. Conviction seems unlikely to cost him support among the GOP primary electorate

f anything, Trump’s potential incarceration could be used to further ignite his self-proclaimed status as a victim of what he calls “the greatest Witch Hunt in American history.” If that were the case, he wouldn’t be the first presidential candidate to use his incarceration for political gain. Debs did something similar when running from prison in 1920.

“When Debs ran as a Socialist Party candidate…, he featured his conviction and incarceration as part of his political strategy,” said Lisa Marshall Manheim, a professor at the University of Washington School of Law. “For example, his campaign handed out buttons referring to Debs as Convict No. 9653.”

If Trump were to somehow win reelection after being convicted of any crime, it would be unrealistic to expect that he can govern from behind bars, according to Shaw. According to the Constitution, a president must be able to perform the executive duties vested on them by the government—duties which would be extremely difficult to perform under the constraints that come with being incarcerated.

In that instance, Shaw outlines three options: Trump could be impeached again, the Cabinet could initiate 25th amendment proceedings to remove Trump from office, or Trump could present the case to the courts that his sentence must be suspended until after his term in office.*

In other words, Shaw said, “The powers of the presidency would have to give, or the state’s criminal authority would have to give.”

A lot of people blame Trump for deviding the country, but I think people give him way too much credit. It's the sheep that chose to follow the sheppard and the sheep did the actual deviding therefore, but everyone wants to blame the sheppard.

The country was dividing up and has been for a long time. He is a genius at taking advantage of these divisions and has no compunctions about "pouring gasoline on the fire".

But what has he actually done that is bad for people, action wise? People don't like him because he is 'fowlmouthed', but is that it? When people say he is sexist and racist, what has he done to actually screw non-white people and non-males over?