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16 Apr 2016, 12:30 pm

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Clinton is a liar and a sociopath. She let American soldiers die and felt no remorse, so compromised national security and felt no remorse. What makes you think she'll keep try to her word? I guarantee you she will use programs in order to bypass privacy and try to confiscate guns from those the government deem mentally unfit. She will expand on what the government will consider unfit, just like what Obama has done.


I hope she will keep her word, but after reading about what you said, and knowing how much of a liar she is, I think there's a good chance she won't.



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16 Apr 2016, 12:37 pm

^^^nevertheless, it is a safe bet that The Rump won't do any better than her in this respect at least.



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16 Apr 2016, 12:54 pm

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^^^nevertheless, it is a safe bet that The Rump won't do any better than her in this respect at least.

Truth is that none of the candidates will do more or less than any of the other candidates. The US is too divided politically at the ground level (you, me, and all the other small people that actually vote), for the nation to have any clear vision for the future, thus we can't move there. Hillary and Sanders-- both will face a hostile congress that will get just as little legislation passed as they have the last 8 years. Trump and Cruz-- both would face a hostile congress because half the majority was for them in the primary, the other half was against them, thus the same legislative bottleneck. A party in power means nothing, the party is irrelevant, for a country to do something it needs consensus (50%+1). The current system doesn't provide for consensus, thus we don't have it, thus we never get anywhere. The framers were concerned about consolidated power in the hands of one man, ala The King, so they wrote in all kinds of checks and balances to the system to ensure that a monarchy doesn't evolve. All those checks and balances, however, have also created a system of political deadlock where nothing can be agreed upon. The framers were smart, but they weren't omnipotent.



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16 Apr 2016, 12:59 pm

auntblabby wrote:
^^^nevertheless, it is a safe bet that The Rump won't do any better than her in this respect at least.


Indeed. Especially since he wants someone who thinks I'm "a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out" to head the National Institutes of Health, and that he thinks autism is Definitely Caused By Vaccines. I can't take Trump seriously, and I can't take the "vaccines-autism" s**t seriously either. To me it's now just a bandwagon rather than a theory.



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16 Apr 2016, 1:07 pm

I think we're all f@cked, only some of us don't know it yet.



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16 Apr 2016, 5:07 pm

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I think this is quite unpopular on WP: While I'm not sure I exactly like Hillary Clinton, I definitely prefer her over Donald Trump. I can at least appreciate her plan for autism, and how she isn't an "Autism Is Caused By Vaccines!"-bandwagon jumper like Donald. There's nothing at all that I like about Donald.

She has no plans for autism, unless you mean trying to further push Obama's agenda and deny gun rights for people receiving SSI.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing ... -families/

Clinton is a liar and a sociopath. She let American soldiers die and felt no remorse, so compromised national security and felt no remorse. What makes you think she'll keep try to her word? I guarantee you she will use programs in order to bypass privacy and try to confiscate guns from those the government deem mentally unfit. She will expand on what the government will consider unfit, just like what Obama has done.


I must have missed Obama seizing any guns.


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16 Apr 2016, 7:35 pm

I guess you missed when Obama signed an executive order denying beneficiaries on SSI from owning guns. I guess you missed when Hillary stated she wants to go after the NRA, when she agreed that gun confiscation is a good idea. I guess you missed that. Rights aren't taken away outright, they are eroded and chipped away over time.



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16 Apr 2016, 8:01 pm

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I guess you missed when Obama signed an executive order denying beneficiaries on SSI from owning guns. I guess you missed when Hillary stated she wants to go after the NRA, when she agreed that gun confiscation is a good idea. I guess you missed that. Rights aren't taken away outright, they are eroded and chipped away over time.


I haven't seen anyone on SSI have their guns taken away from them.
And I seriously doubt Clinton or anyone is going to seize anyone's guns. And why not go after the NRA? Their leadership are a bunch of A$$holes.


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18 Apr 2016, 1:13 am

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I must have missed Obama seizing any guns.


That pesky GOP congress has mostly foiled him, but he would if he could.


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18 Apr 2016, 5:15 am

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I must have missed Obama seizing any guns.


That pesky GOP congress has mostly foiled him, but he would if he could.


Uh huh.


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18 Apr 2016, 12:46 pm

Posters on WrongPlanet shouldn't be allowed to post more than one YouTube video per week.



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18 Apr 2016, 2:13 pm

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Posters on WrongPlanet shouldn't be allowed to post more than one YouTube video per week.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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18 Apr 2016, 2:27 pm

I believe we need to stop squabbling between falsely dichotomized partisan divisions, stop overspending on weapons, decomission our killer robots and seriously fund aerospace sciences. NASA should have its' own large body of party support.


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18 Apr 2016, 2:36 pm

why can't there be a NASA party? :scratch:



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18 Apr 2016, 2:42 pm

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why can't there be a NASA party? :scratch:


Maybe there's a conspiracy of alien planets preventing this, so we humans can't spread our diseased behavior to the stars.


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18 Apr 2016, 2:50 pm

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why can't there be a NASA party? :scratch:


Maybe there's a conspiracy of alien planets preventing this, so we humans can't spread our diseased behavior to the stars.
I have long thought there must be some kind of quarantine going on, keeping us down on planet, I mean why else have we not been back to the moon?