ObamaGate is getting big
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This so-called scandal, in its various forms, has been "getting big" for over two years now. How long until anything actually emerges?
We've literally got Tha Carter 5 and Toy Story 4 in the time we've been waiting for ObamaGate, and neither of those was ever supposed to be released.
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We've literally got Tha Carter 5 and Toy Story 4 in the time we've been waiting for ObamaGate, and neither of those was ever supposed to be released.
You'll know they're really taking their sweet time if I drop my mixtape before Trump and his loyal MAGAts break up the deep state.
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The fact Trump wants to intimidate legitimate law enforcement and intelligence agencies with his own spurious theories about being spied on by political rivals does nothing but display his own anxiety and sense of guilt, while casting doubt about actual criminal investigations based on facts.
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We've had 3 years of daily fake hysteria about fake Russian meddling. There was a phony 2 year investigation into the hoax that was a complete dud. We have clear meddling by a former British intelligence officer who produced a fake dossier on behalf of the DNC so the FBI etc could spy on Trump and try to collude to stop him becoming President.
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There is a mountain of evidence that the Russians interfered, and zero that the FBI spied on Trump, and that's because that spying never happened.
Seriously, this Pro-Russian sentiment is based entirely on hatred of America.
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There is a mountain of evidence that the Russians interfered, and zero that the FBI spied on Trump, and that's because that spying never happened.
Seriously, this Pro-Russian sentiment is based entirely on hatred of America.
There is a lot of evidence of a few individuals in the DOJ, FBI, CIA, & DNC whom helped cover up Hillary’s corruption and spy on Trump's campaign, with bonus material, yes Russia did interfere with the election, that's where the false information in the dossier came from and the DNC was aware of that and the FBI, CIA and DOJ individuals involved in the attempt to frame Trump. Comey lied to the FISA court to be able to spie on the Trump campaign, telling them the dossier was verified when even the author admits that none of the information within the dossier can be confirmed to be legit. And Russia wasn't the only country involved with DNC, CIA, FBI and DOJ corruption to frame and spie on Trump, both UKRAINE and Italy where involved with the corruption. As well as Muller was involved also, his report was a political hit job filled with chopped up conversations pieced together to make it appear as if obstruction occured. Alot of the conversations are being released through FOIA suites revealing the missing bits of the multiple conversations that were chopped up and pieced together trying to make Trump look guilty. I'm sure you will try to insist all of this is incorrect, yet it's back by FOIA documents and many more are going to come out as Bar declassifies many more with his and Duran's ivestigations which recently have been broadened and extended, unlike muller investigation, this one is being extended because they actually have evidence and following a long dirty trail of corruption, which is why the left is going ape s**t, trying to do everything they can to distract the public and try to smear people, including bar, because they know they are about to be in a world of hurt when Bar's investigation gets wrapped up. Be patient, it's comming, more than likely with indietments.
O yea. And the hacked DNC servers were never even confirmed to be hacked, The DNC hired a private contractor to check there severs and handed the FBI a redacted draft, not even an official report. In other words, the FBI never confirmed the DNC was hacked by Russians.
They are also finding out more dirt on how Comey covered up for hillary, recommending theM to not charge her when she committed over 20 felonies, ad well as the fact that China ended up with classified documents hacked from her private server and the fact that Oboma knew about the private server for 3 years and did nothing.
There is also word of possible dossiers constructed to frame other republicans if they had one, their so called 'insurance'.
The bit about muller couldn't prove Trump was innocent on obstruction was very flawed also, a political smear, because prosecutors do not prove people innocent, they either have evidence to recommend indietments or they don't, and he didn't, so he couldn't. No law prevented him from recommending indietments, a recommendation is not indieting a sitting president, that bit was thrown in as a smear as well.
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There is a mountain of evidence that the Russians interfered, and zero that the FBI spied on Trump, and that's because that spying never happened.
Seriously, this Pro-Russian sentiment is based entirely on hatred of America.
There is a lot of evidence of a few individuals in the DOJ, FBI, CIA, & DNC whom helped cover up Hillary’s corruption and spy on Trump's campaign, with bonus material, yes Russia did interfere with the election, that's where the false information in the dossier came from and the DNC was aware of that and the FBI, CIA and DOJ individuals involved in the attempt to frame Trump. Comey lied to the FISA court to be able to spie on the Trump campaign, telling them the dossier was verified when even the author admits that none of the information within the dossier can be confirmed to be legit. And Russia wasn't the only country involved with DNC, CIA, FBI and DOJ corruption to frame and spie on Trump, both UKRAINE and Italy where involved with the corruption. As well as Muller was involved also, his report was a political hit job filled with chopped up conversations pieced together to make it appear as if obstruction occured. Alot of the conversations are being released through FOIA suites revealing the missing bits of the multiple conversations that were chopped up and pieced together trying to make Trump look guilty. I'm sure you will try to insist all of this is incorrect, yet it's back by FOIA documents and many more are going to come out as Bar declassifies many more with his and Duran's ivestigations which recently have been broadened and extended, unlike muller investigation, this one is being extended because they actually have evidence and following a long dirty trail of corruption, which is why the left is going ape s**t, trying to do everything they can to distract the public and try to smear people, including bar, because they know they are about to be in a world of hurt when Bar's investigation gets wrapped up. Be patient, it's comming, more than likely with indietments.
O yea. And the hacked DNC servers were never even confirmed to be hacked, The DNC hired a private contractor to check there severs and handed the FBI a redacted draft, not even an official report. In other words, the FBI never confirmed the DNC was hacked by Russians.
You're right about one thing - - everything you wrote is incorrect.
You said indictments for the Dems were coming; well what about indictments scored on team Trump? Are you claiming those are all illegitimate?
Trump is no innocent babe in the woods. He's a dirty businessman and con man who compromised himself by accepting help from the Russians who definitely expect something in return for said help. Why else work against our own national interests and against our allies, while courting totalitarian strongmen?
Just where did you get your misinformation from?
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There is a mountain of evidence that the Russians interfered, and zero that the FBI spied on Trump, and that's because that spying never happened.
Seriously, this Pro-Russian sentiment is based entirely on hatred of America.
There is a lot of evidence of a few individuals in the DOJ, FBI, CIA, & DNC whom helped cover up Hillary’s corruption and spy on Trump's campaign, with bonus material, yes Russia did interfere with the election, that's where the false information in the dossier came from and the DNC was aware of that and the FBI, CIA and DOJ individuals involved in the attempt to frame Trump. Comey lied to the FISA court to be able to spie on the Trump campaign, telling them the dossier was verified when even the author admits that none of the information within the dossier can be confirmed to be legit. And Russia wasn't the only country involved with DNC, CIA, FBI and DOJ corruption to frame and spie on Trump, both UKRAINE and Italy where involved with the corruption. As well as Muller was involved also, his report was a political hit job filled with chopped up conversations pieced together to make it appear as if obstruction occured. Alot of the conversations are being released through FOIA suites revealing the missing bits of the multiple conversations that were chopped up and pieced together trying to make Trump look guilty. I'm sure you will try to insist all of this is incorrect, yet it's back by FOIA documents and many more are going to come out as Bar declassifies many more with his and Duran's ivestigations which recently have been broadened and extended, unlike muller investigation, this one is being extended because they actually have evidence and following a long dirty trail of corruption, which is why the left is going ape s**t, trying to do everything they can to distract the public and try to smear people, including bar, because they know they are about to be in a world of hurt when Bar's investigation gets wrapped up. Be patient, it's comming, more than likely with indietments.
O yea. And the hacked DNC servers were never even confirmed to be hacked, The DNC hired a private contractor to check there severs and handed the FBI a redacted draft, not even an official report. In other words, the FBI never confirmed the DNC was hacked by Russians.
You're right about one thing - - everything you wrote is incorrect.
You said indictments for the Dems were coming; well what about indictments scored on team Trump? Are you claiming those are all illegitimate?
Trump is no innocent babe in the woods. He's a dirty businessman and con man who compromised himself by accepting help from the Russians who definitely expect something in return for said help. Why else work against our own national interests and against our allies, while courting totalitarian strongmen?
Just where did you get your misinformation from?
You'll see, I added more information. As said, these are backed up by actual intel, not journalists and a fake dossier.
As stated, there are no indietments on Trump, you have to have crimes committed to have indietments.
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There is a mountain of evidence that the Russians interfered, and zero that the FBI spied on Trump, and that's because that spying never happened.
Seriously, this Pro-Russian sentiment is based entirely on hatred of America.
There is a lot of evidence of a few individuals in the DOJ, FBI, CIA, & DNC whom helped cover up Hillary’s corruption and spy on Trump's campaign, with bonus material, yes Russia did interfere with the election, that's where the false information in the dossier came from and the DNC was aware of that and the FBI, CIA and DOJ individuals involved in the attempt to frame Trump. Comey lied to the FISA court to be able to spie on the Trump campaign, telling them the dossier was verified when even the author admits that none of the information within the dossier can be confirmed to be legit. And Russia wasn't the only country involved with DNC, CIA, FBI and DOJ corruption to frame and spie on Trump, both UKRAINE and Italy where involved with the corruption. As well as Muller was involved also, his report was a political hit job filled with chopped up conversations pieced together to make it appear as if obstruction occured. Alot of the conversations are being released through FOIA suites revealing the missing bits of the multiple conversations that were chopped up and pieced together trying to make Trump look guilty. I'm sure you will try to insist all of this is incorrect, yet it's back by FOIA documents and many more are going to come out as Bar declassifies many more with his and Duran's ivestigations which recently have been broadened and extended, unlike muller investigation, this one is being extended because they actually have evidence and following a long dirty trail of corruption, which is why the left is going ape s**t, trying to do everything they can to distract the public and try to smear people, including bar, because they know they are about to be in a world of hurt when Bar's investigation gets wrapped up. Be patient, it's comming, more than likely with indietments.
O yea. And the hacked DNC servers were never even confirmed to be hacked, The DNC hired a private contractor to check there severs and handed the FBI a redacted draft, not even an official report. In other words, the FBI never confirmed the DNC was hacked by Russians.
You're right about one thing - - everything you wrote is incorrect.
You said indictments for the Dems were coming; well what about indictments scored on team Trump? Are you claiming those are all illegitimate?
Trump is no innocent babe in the woods. He's a dirty businessman and con man who compromised himself by accepting help from the Russians who definitely expect something in return for said help. Why else work against our own national interests and against our allies, while courting totalitarian strongmen?
Just where did you get your misinformation from?
You'll see, I added more information. As said, these are backed up by actual intel, not journalists and a fake dossier.
As stated, there are no indietments on Trump, you have to have crimes committed to have indietments.
Mueller found plenty. Now it's up to congress to do something about it.
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Obstruction of justice is a crime. Most of it was attempted obstruction, as Trump would order something insane, like firing Mueller, but only to have his more sane henchmen refuse to carry it out.
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There is a mountain of evidence that the Russians interfered, and zero that the FBI spied on Trump, and that's because that spying never happened.
Seriously, this Pro-Russian sentiment is based entirely on hatred of America.
There's zero evidence, not only that but Bill Binney has debunked it. You're in denial because you've pushed the hoax for 3 years and now have egg on your face.
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There is a mountain of evidence that the Russians interfered, and zero that the FBI spied on Trump, and that's because that spying never happened.
Seriously, this Pro-Russian sentiment is based entirely on hatred of America.
You have a hatred of Russia built on Cold War propaganda, xenophobia and your desperation to have some alternative universe explanation for Trump being elected.
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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
There is a mountain of evidence that the Russians interfered, and zero that the FBI spied on Trump, and that's because that spying never happened.
Seriously, this Pro-Russian sentiment is based entirely on hatred of America.
There is a lot of evidence of a few individuals in the DOJ, FBI, CIA, & DNC whom helped cover up Hillary’s corruption and spy on Trump's campaign, with bonus material, yes Russia did interfere with the election, that's where the false information in the dossier came from and the DNC was aware of that and the FBI, CIA and DOJ individuals involved in the attempt to frame Trump. Comey lied to the FISA court to be able to spie on the Trump campaign, telling them the dossier was verified when even the author admits that none of the information within the dossier can be confirmed to be legit. And Russia wasn't the only country involved with DNC, CIA, FBI and DOJ corruption to frame and spie on Trump, both UKRAINE and Italy where involved with the corruption. As well as Muller was involved also, his report was a political hit job filled with chopped up conversations pieced together to make it appear as if obstruction occured. Alot of the conversations are being released through FOIA suites revealing the missing bits of the multiple conversations that were chopped up and pieced together trying to make Trump look guilty. I'm sure you will try to insist all of this is incorrect, yet it's back by FOIA documents and many more are going to come out as Bar declassifies many more with his and Duran's ivestigations which recently have been broadened and extended, unlike muller investigation, this one is being extended because they actually have evidence and following a long dirty trail of corruption, which is why the left is going ape s**t, trying to do everything they can to distract the public and try to smear people, including bar, because they know they are about to be in a world of hurt when Bar's investigation gets wrapped up. Be patient, it's comming, more than likely with indietments.
O yea. And the hacked DNC servers were never even confirmed to be hacked, The DNC hired a private contractor to check there severs and handed the FBI a redacted draft, not even an official report. In other words, the FBI never confirmed the DNC was hacked by Russians.
You're right about one thing - - everything you wrote is incorrect.
You said indictments for the Dems were coming; well what about indictments scored on team Trump? Are you claiming those are all illegitimate?
Trump is no innocent babe in the woods. He's a dirty businessman and con man who compromised himself by accepting help from the Russians who definitely expect something in return for said help. Why else work against our own national interests and against our allies, while courting totalitarian strongmen?
Just where did you get your misinformation from?
Everything he wrote is true. You won't hear about it on Alex Jones style conspiracy channels like CNN who have been peddling the fake hoax for 3 years. Trump has only hurt Russia. It was Israel who got him elected.
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