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07 Jan 2021, 7:07 pm

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It's become a standard tactic at this point.
No evidence of widespread fraud exists? Pass laws that restrict voting anyway. People point out the lack of evidence? Rehash the same sources that have been debunked over and over. Its not like your base is going to question it!

No evidence the election was stolen? Keep saying it was stolen! repeatedly! Keep trying to file frivolous lawsuits that get shot down by your own judges! Keep demanding more recounts, because surely the 6th time will be the charm! Suddenly they'll find all the fraud that the other audits and recounts didn't find!

Just keep repeating the lie over and over again. Make no attempt to provide evidence. Deny evidence to the contrary. Make claims first then find evidence later! Or find evidence never, in this case.

Most importantly: believe the lie. Lie to yourself and your sincerity to others becomes real.

Stop. Stop parroting this nonsense just because politicians and echo chamber pundits told you so.


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07 Jan 2021, 7:09 pm

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Why are conservatives so eager to prevent Americans from voting? ...
They do not want to prevent all Americans from voting, just those who may vote against them.

The people who are most likely to use mail-in ballots are:

• The disabled, because they cannot make it to the polls and are most likely to rely on Liberal-run social welfare programs.
• The non-whites, because they may feel intimidated by the Conservative thugs and goons "guarding" the ballot boxes.
• The women, because they may feel intimidated by the Conservative thugs and goons "guarding" the ballot boxes.
• The college students, because they cannot make it to the polls in their hometowns and are most likely to vote for Liberal-Progressive candidates and propositions.
• The expats, because they cannot make it to the polls in their hometowns and they are also most likely to vote for Liberal-Progressive candidates and propositions.
• The immigrants, because they may not even know where their polls are and they are most likely to vote against Conservative-Repressive candidates and propositions, having fled such regimes in their home countries.
• Urbanites, because they are most likely to rely on Liberal-run social welfare programs AND because they are most likely to vote against Conservative-Repressive candidates and propositions.

If you eliminate the votes of these seven demographic groups, what remains? Able-bodied, native-born, white, male citizens without college educations living in rural areas, which pretty much describes the vast majority of people who voted for Donald Trump in the last election.


Don't forget the poor who can't take a day off to vote.
Don't forget people who live in rural areas that don't want to drive hours to a court house to vote.


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07 Jan 2021, 7:36 pm

This thread is about how Donald Trump would do anything, even lie through his teeth, even provoke a mob to storm the Capitol Building, to get himself elected President again.

The man is not in his right mind. He has to go.....far, far away from where he can do real harm.



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07 Jan 2021, 7:42 pm

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This posting makes the most sense to me. On this topic !

This topic is about accusations of US voter fraud.


Thought I was agreeing with ideas of how to. Lessen the opportunity for voter fraud .
But if I misunderstood the intent of the earlier post , then please consider , I have nothing to add to this thread.
Thank very much .


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07 Jan 2021, 7:44 pm

Jakki wrote:
hope this thread maintains a balance outlook on the issues around this election,
seems the numbers of mail in ballots literally it appears to have doubled in this election then a previous elections Appearing overnight. according to the news here . Particularily in Pennsylvanias election tabulations.
So am at a loss as to how these Elections should be approved until all the unusual variables have been examined . No love for either party but , there appears to be some questions that need to be addressed yet . :?:


Due process has been achieved through the courts.
What else can be done?
Time to accept the situation and move on. 8)



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07 Jan 2021, 7:48 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
This thread is about how Donald Trump would do anything, even lie through his teeth, even provoke a mob to storm the Capitol Building, to get himself elected President again.

The man is not in his right mind. He has to go.....far, far away from where he can do real harm.


He has done some good things for the country and the middle east, but he has definitely lost the plot, now.
My best guess is his ego is driving him into delusion. 8)



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07 Jan 2021, 8:07 pm

Trump will be marked down as, definitely, one of the three worst Presidents ever.....probably the worst.



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07 Jan 2021, 8:12 pm

^^ This



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07 Jan 2021, 8:32 pm

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Trump will be marked down as, definitely, one of the three worst Presidents ever.....probably the worst.


What is tragic is at a time 2016 - 2020 when Americans should be coming together as an evolved/advanced nation focusing on things like education, progress and technology around 71 million chose to listen to the language of division and hate and preferred to send the country back to 1950.



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07 Jan 2021, 8:35 pm

The actual number, as of yesterday, is 74 million. Biden got 81 million votes.



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07 Jan 2021, 8:38 pm

74 million is worse....lots of healing to be done...lots of therapy perhaps



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07 Jan 2021, 8:43 pm

People have to learn to think for themselves.

I'm not "against" therapy----but I don't believe "therapy" is the answer.

Except for fringe elements, I believe most people are turned off to people like Trump. They want stability.



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07 Jan 2021, 8:47 pm

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People have to learn to think for themselves.

I'm not "against" therapy----but I don't believe "therapy" is the answer.

Except for fringe elements, I believe most people are turned off to people like Trump. They want stability.


If it was China they would put all 74 million into re-education camps. teach the idiots about consequences from making bad decisions.



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07 Jan 2021, 8:51 pm

We don't want that sort of thing here....

This is the first time we've had a President like Trump. And I bet this will be the last time.



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07 Jan 2021, 8:57 pm

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We don't want that sort of thing here....

This is the first time we've had a President like Trump. And I bet this will be the last time.


Well there's a first time for everything, I am serious, 74 million potential subversives who may act on their cult leader's instructions to destroy the country.



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07 Jan 2021, 9:08 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
We don't want that sort of thing here....

This is the first time we've had a President like Trump. And I bet this will be the last time.


I am not sure. The sentiments that got us here have not gone away. The right wing are not taking responsibility for the insurrection. The GOP have progressively moved toward authoritarianism since Reagan. We had Newt Gingrich, the Bush my way or the highway administration, and then the McConnell obstruction during the Obama administration all leading to Trump. The is no indication that the GOP are going to think there needs to be a change. Over 120 congressmen and congresswomen raised objections to the electoral college votes. Even though this has been done before, there was no concerted effort by a party to overturn an election.