Trump's various attempts to challenge election results

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I imagine they are pandering to their MAGA constituents. Like in the 1920s when democrat congressmen wore white robes because of grassroots support for the KKK.

He'll be right up there with Buchanan and Andrew Johnson.

Both were incompetent racists who set American civil rights back decades, but neither were an overt egomaniac who sowed division and flaunted the law for his personal benefit at the expense of democracy and decency.

The absolute worst, on so many levels. Yet it was clear long before his run for the presidency who the man was and how he operated; his behaviour since has only made that clearer. He is a festering liability, a millstone around the neck of America.

When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.
──Maya Angelou

I think Merriam-Webster may have to re-write its definitions for the word "trump" -- both the noun and verb forms.

Whether there was fraud in the election or not, the fact is the whole US system is a fraud. Look at what the US establishment (BOTH “wings”) have overseen in recent decades.

Pointless, destructive wars in the Middle East (millions of lives lost or ruined, including thousands of US soldiers; plus trillions of dollars wasted)
NSA spying on all US citizens
Off-shoring of American jobs
Hundreds of thousands of suicides per year
Hundreds of thousands of opioid deaths per year
Deliberately covering up the crimes of Jeffrey Epstein for years
And in 2020 alone: inflaming BLM/antifa thugs with a false narrative, letting them burn down whole neighbourhoods, and then covering it up,
And then refuding to provide adequate relief for the ordinary people who have had their livelihoods ruined by the combined effects of the lockdown and the riots, while providing billions for financial institutions and foreign countries that don’t need it.

And yet all the establishment has to do is come out with some platitudes about how “our democracy” is being attacked, and you guys are lining up to hysterically defend them. It’s incredible to see you so-called leftists so outraged that the dirty proles would dare to enter one of the sacred temples of the elites.

And as for Trump? He encouraged his supporters to turn up, but never had any intention of genuinely fighting on for them, and now he’s throwing them under the bus. But you people probably haven’t grasped that fact either.

How conveniently you forget how the left responded to the covid pandemic in its early days. You know, with things like
“Don’t close the border, that would be racist” - “Go and eat out in Chinatown to show how tolerant you are” -
“Masks don’t help, because only medical professionals know how to put them on properly” -
“The May & June covid spikes had nothing to do with the BLM protests, and anyway, racism is the real public health crisis”

As I said before, the levels of self-awareness on this forum are close to zero.

Thank you for sharing.  Have a nice day!

If Democrats were against closing the border, it's because the GOP has yelled about doing so for years for solely racist reasons. It's like how you can't support state's rights anymore because conservatives have spent over a century using the idea as a cudgel to uphold racism.
Let's say Democrats were initially irresponsible wrt handling the pandemic. If so, they changed their tune damn quickly. Republicans started out irresponsible and they never looked back. 350,000 dead Americans later and they still refuse to budge.

At this point, when people try and use the old Both Sides deflection, should I smile and nod or roll on the floor laughing?

They seem to use Both Sides because they know on some level that arguing that the other side is actually worse than theirs is not an argument they're going to win.
Makes you wonder why it's mostly the One Side that insists upon crying Both Sides.

Last edited by roronoa79 on 08 Jan 2021, 10:29 am, edited 3 times in total.

It is all part of their "Support Trump in Any Way" strategy...


... take note of the final line.

It is like some six-year old trying to deflect blame by blaming others for something else.  Here is another example...

That sums up the moral compass of a typical MAGA

This is hilarious. It’s the GOP’s fault that Democrats were against closing the border? Democrats can’t possibly support anything the GOP supports, even for different reasons? Democrats must only ever support the exact opposite of what the GOP are supporting?
By the way, the idea that the GOP have ever actually been serious in recent decades about reducing immigration is another delusion shared by Democrat and GOP voters alike.
Trump during his election campaign: “We’re going to build a wall”
Trump as President: “We want immigrants to come here in the record numbers ever”


Quickly? Lol, they were still supporting BLM/antifa riots in June, and making excuses for the covid spike those gatherings obviously contributed to.


You’re just repeating some talking-point you’ve heard in a context where it doesn’t belong (a very common thing around here). Try paying attention to what I was actually responding to. I was responding to funeralxempire’s ridiculous, sweeping statement that “reality has a left-wing bias”. Firstly, it’s always laughable seeing people all these years later still paraphrasing that sh***y Stephen Colbert joke, and even more so seeing them use it in the context of the covid pandemic. Secondly, funeralxempire’s statement and my response to it were about “left” and “right”, not about the two political parties that uninformed people think encompass the entire spectrum of political thought. You are the one who made it about political parties, with the resulting false assumption that I support the GOP when I don’t. Personally, I’d like to see the GOP destroyed and replaced by a party that actually serves the sort of people who mistakenly think the GOP and/or Trump are “their guys”.


If this is directed at me, it’s another contextually inappropriate post, and for the same reasons roronoa79’s was, but even more so. I sympathize with Trump’s misguided supporters, but everything I’ve said about Trump himself on this thread is negative.

Large parts of the US were literally burning back in May and June thanks to a movement and a fraudulent narrative supported by the deluded leftist types who are overrepresented on this sub-forum. If I laugh, it’s over seeing leftists for years on end supporting policies that will lead (and have led) to more ordinary neighborhoods being destroyed, more unaccountable corporate power, more economic inequality, and more government surveillance – because like well-trained pets they’re too focused on some phantom fascist menace to understand what they’re supporting, and anyway they think “I’ll be ok, because I have the correct opinions!”



"We’re on your side!" whine the leftoids as their windows get smashed.

Tell us more about this fraudulent narrative. I'm sure your views will be very insightful.

The fraudulent narrative is that George Floyd's death was indicative of an epidemic of US police officers targeting and killing unarmed and innocent black people.

And yet, more Black men die in police confrontations.