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01 Mar 2021, 5:20 am

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I think she was trying to start a conversation, but you can't have a conversation with a mob. A mob only responds to emotionalism.


A conversation about what exactly? that fanatical MAGAs shouldn't be criticised?



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01 Mar 2021, 8:55 am

But I don't think all republicans are fanatics, are they? Can't you be a republican without being a fanatic?



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01 Mar 2021, 10:23 am

John McCain was that sort of Republican. He was vilified by the MAGA crowd.



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01 Mar 2021, 3:38 pm

ironpony wrote:
But I don't think all republicans are fanatics, are they? Can't you be a republican without being a fanatic?


Of course



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01 Mar 2021, 4:36 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
John McCain was that sort of Republican. He was vilified by the MAGA crowd.

I'm not a Trump supporter and absolutely hated McCain.



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01 Mar 2021, 4:38 pm

cyberdad wrote:
A conversation about what exactly? that fanatical MAGAs shouldn't be criticised?

Wow, nice strawman here.
Were talking about cancel culture, not criticism. Criticism is part in parcel of having a conversation. People who cancelled Gina have no interest in having a conversation. They have already concluded that they are moral and everyone who disagrees with them is evil and needs to be shunned and denied employment.



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01 Mar 2021, 4:59 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Ball wrote:
Pepe wrote:
I think she was trying to start a conversation, but you can't have a conversation with a mob. A mob only responds to emotionalism.


A conversation about what exactly? that fanatical MAGAs shouldn't be criticised?


You miss quoted.
I didn't write that. 8)



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01 Mar 2021, 5:03 pm

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They have already concluded that they are moral and everyone who disagrees with them is evil and needs to be shunned and denied employment.


I missed that statement from Disney.
Would you be so kind as to link it?
My Google-fu isnt connecting to anything like this.



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01 Mar 2021, 5:07 pm

ironpony wrote:
But I don't think all republicans are fanatics, are they? Can't you be a republican without being a fanatic fascist?


I fixed it for you. :mrgreen:

No, not all republicans are the same.
But I think you are missing what is actually happening here.

The left side of politics is using 'tactics'.
One of those tactics is to create 'binaries'.
I.E.
All Republicans are bad.
All Democrats are good.

Clearly, this is self-evident nonsense.
So Why do they do it?

My best guess is that it is a form of brainwashing.
Say something often enough and people will get used to the idea and accept it.
Studies have been done on this and it isn't a new strategy.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." Joseph Goebbels
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jo ... g-lie-quot



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01 Mar 2021, 5:10 pm

Ball wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
A conversation about what exactly? that fanatical MAGAs shouldn't be criticised?

Wow, nice strawman here.
Were talking about cancel culture, not criticism. Criticism is part in parcel of having a conversation. People who cancelled Gina have no interest in having a conversation. They have already concluded that they are moral and everyone who disagrees with them is evil and needs to be shunned and denied employment.


Mob rule.
No one on the spectrum should ever be involved in mob rule.



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01 Mar 2021, 5:13 pm

Ball wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
John McCain was that sort of Republican. He was vilified by the MAGA crowd.

I'm not a Trump supporter and absolutely hated McCain.



I am dismayed that Trump will continue to be a driving force in the Republican party.



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01 Mar 2021, 11:03 pm

Pepe wrote:
ironpony wrote:
But I don't think all republicans are fanatics, are they? Can't you be a republican without being a fanatic fascist?


I fixed it for you. :mrgreen:

No, not all republicans are the same.
But I think you are missing what is actually happening here.

The left side of politics is using 'tactics'.
One of those tactics is to create 'binaries'.
I.E.
All Republicans are bad.
All Democrats are good.

Clearly, this is self-evident nonsense.
So Why do they do it?

My best guess is that it is a form of brainwashing.
Say something often enough and people will get used to the idea and accept it.
Studies have been done on this and it isn't a new strategy.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." Joseph Goebbels
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jo ... g-lie-quot


Well what I don't understand is, why is there so much hate between right and left, I don't understand why they can't agree to disagree and get along even if they disgaree. It seems that Derek Chauvin started all this hate last year, and someone that murder became a right and left issue somehow, but how?

Perhaps the left and right had hate towards each other before that, but Chauvin certainly exculated it by a lot. But how did that escalate it and why?



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01 Mar 2021, 11:31 pm

ironpony wrote:
Pepe wrote:
ironpony wrote:
But I don't think all republicans are fanatics, are they? Can't you be a republican without being a fanatic fascist?


I fixed it for you. :mrgreen:

No, not all republicans are the same.
But I think you are missing what is actually happening here.

The left side of politics is using 'tactics'.
One of those tactics is to create 'binaries'.
I.E.
All Republicans are bad.
All Democrats are good.

Clearly, this is self-evident nonsense.
So Why do they do it?

My best guess is that it is a form of brainwashing.
Say something often enough and people will get used to the idea and accept it.
Studies have been done on this and it isn't a new strategy.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." Joseph Goebbels
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jo ... g-lie-quot


Well what I don't understand is, why is there so much hate between right and left, I don't understand why they can't agree to disagree and get along even if they disgaree. It seems that Derek Chauvin started all this hate last year, and someone that murder became a right and left issue somehow, but how?


I have ***NEVER!! !*** seen the hate partisanship as bad as this in my life!! ! 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O
This hate was there before Chauvin.
I believe it went ballistic when Trump won the election, but I am happy for someone to correct me if I am wrong.
I wasn't into American politics as much back then as I am now. 8)


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Perhaps the left and right had hate towards each other before that, but Chauvin certainly exculated it by a lot. But how did that escalate it and why?


I'm not touchin' that one at this stage, sorry.
Don't expect me to do *all* your dirty-work. :mrgreen:



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02 Mar 2021, 12:23 am

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I am dismayed that Trump will continue to be a driving force in the Republican party.

Won't change until someone else steps up to the plate and represents working class Americans. You won't get that from neoconservatives, neoliberals, sycophants for wall st, MIC, sycophants for lobbyists of foreign powers, or deep state actors.
Basically unless we get behind someone like a Tulsi Gabbard, who else is there?
Again, not a Trump supporter, but you're not going to make him irrelevant unless you offer his supporters something better.



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02 Mar 2021, 12:29 am

But can Trump still be the driving force, if he is just a civilian now and has no Presidential power for the people to vote for?



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02 Mar 2021, 12:50 am

Ball wrote:
Were talking about cancel culture, not criticism. Criticism is part in parcel of having a conversation. People who cancelled Gina have no interest in having a conversation. They have already concluded that they are moral and everyone who disagrees with them is evil and needs to be shunned and denied employment.


The Disney execs who fired Gina Carano made a "corproate" decision that had nothing to do with the mythical right wing fantasy of cancel culture.