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13 Feb 2013, 2:21 am

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I suppose it is fair to ask: Why shouldn't Feminists reward the "nice guys" who support their positions with a bit of shagging?

Because sex should be something done for mutual pleasure by people that actually want to do it, not as some sort of reward for good behavior.

Seems hard to get women's advice on how to turn them on though.

There is no advice on how to turn them on. You can't. The point I was trying to make is that if there is no attraction there then no amount of "good behavior" is going to get you sex as a reward.

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13 Feb 2013, 2:21 am

ripped wrote:

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Could you please elaborate upon what you mean by "men's desires of women" and "each gender's needs of each other"?

Okay...
Are you a man or a woman?
Do you have and needs of any members of the opposite sex?

I am a woman. I don't have any needs that are dependent on anyone's sex.

But you claim to speak for everybody?

Please point out where I claimed or implied any such thing.

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13 Feb 2013, 2:25 am

Who_Am_I wrote:

ripped wrote:

Who_Am_I wrote:

ripped wrote:

Who_Am_I wrote:

Could you please elaborate upon what you mean by "men's desires of women" and "each gender's needs of each other"?

Okay...
Are you a man or a woman?
Do you have and needs of any members of the opposite sex?

I am a woman. I don't have any needs that are dependent on anyone's sex.

But you claim to speak for everybody?

Please point out where I claimed or implied any such thing.

I'm not sure what they even meant unless they meant sex which I don't need another person for, opposite sex or same sex.

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13 Feb 2013, 5:59 am

hanyo wrote:

There is no advice on how to turn them on. You can't. The point I was trying to make is that if there is no attraction there then no amount of "good behavior" is going to get you sex as a reward.

But there is, and apparently good behavior is not it.

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13 Feb 2013, 6:09 am

hanyo wrote:

Who_Am_I wrote:

ripped wrote:

Who_Am_I wrote:

ripped wrote:

Who_Am_I wrote:

Could you please elaborate upon what you mean by "men's desires of women" and "each gender's needs of each other"?

Okay...
Are you a man or a woman?
Do you have and needs of any members of the opposite sex?

I am a woman. I don't have any needs that are dependent on anyone's sex.

But you claim to speak for everybody?

Please point out where I claimed or implied any such thing.

I'm not sure what they even meant unless they meant sex which I don't need another person for, opposite sex or same sex.

Well its a trick way of getting around the question.
But I didn't make my point properly either.

What I have been exposed to as feminism seems to entail the abrogation of gender roles.
What I see in love and dating is the use of gender roles to elicit romantic responses.

That it is the difference
between the genders
that is the source
of their attraction
and the way
that those differences
compliment
each other.

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13 Feb 2013, 6:14 am

That's only appropriate for most males and females. Doesn't work too well with a selection that don't conform to the gender norm.

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13 Feb 2013, 6:17 am

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That's only appropriate for most males and females. Doesn't work too well with a selection that don't conform to the gender norm.

I was under the assumption that feminism promoted itself as a universal ideal. A movement applicable to everybody.

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13 Feb 2013, 8:02 am

ripped wrote:

MCalavera wrote:

That's only appropriate for most males and females. Doesn't work too well with a selection that don't conform to the gender norm.

I was under the assumption that feminism promoted itself as a universal ideal. A movement applicable to everybody.

I don't think so. It seems to be about telling men that they should do certain things and telling women that they should do certain things.

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13 Feb 2013, 4:38 pm

MCalavera wrote:

That's only appropriate for most males and females. Doesn't work too well with a selection that don't conform to the gender norm.

It only works for lesbians?

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14 Feb 2013, 12:19 am

AspieOtaku wrote:

If aggressive/creepy men who overstepped women's boundaries were castrated, there would be more women for me. Can't say I object to this proposition. :lol:

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17 Feb 2013, 9:02 pm

madamehussein wrote:

....I really appreciate hispanic countries and places where people are more safe in their gender identities, where you don't have to put up with all that questioning all the time...

This is not unheard of then?

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20 Feb 2013, 12:05 am

Like any decent human being, I support female equality but I don't think believing women are human means that you must believe in all the college campus dogma.

I see feminism as being a lot more than simply believing in female autonomy and equality. I think there is a deep agenda in favor of androgyny. They want to eliminate the differences between the sexes and they have a conspiratorial and revised concept of history.

Feminists can be surprisingly anti-female too ... for example many of them are quite hostile towards females in "stereotypical" roles such as stay at home moms and cheerleaders.

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