Misogyny/MRA is a sign of weakness

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Good one Greb, I see you're still playing parrot. Which argument would that be? Lol. Get back to us when you are capable of putting together something that looks like a coherent argument you lazy halfwit

I thought you didn't care for naked assertions my avian friend

Trust me, sprinters have a freakishly high protein intake. He did steroids though; impressive lifts and impressive running stats are in most cases mutually exclusive because running also burns muscle.



Most so-called workout programs from Hollywood are forgeries, but most actresses rarely do anything more than low-intensity yoga. Chris Hemsworth has openly spoken out about his routine, which consisted of heavy base lifts (deadlifts, bench presses etc.) in the 4-6 range.



She's still more muscular than most other Hollywood actresses, though... :p



Hollywood actors work out the same way as everyone else who transform their body in a short time. Hugh Jackman bulked for more than a year and was quite fit even before he prepared for Wolverine.



A skinny fat girl is more acceptable than a skinny fat boy, apparently.

I know. I went through an obsessive phase in my late teens where I gained like 70 lbs in 2 years. I became extremely depressed around the age of 15 and ended up losing weight from loss of appetite to the point where I was 150lbs at 6'1" at age 17. I was enraged at the fact that I was skinny and weak so I forced myself to eat like crazy and work out every day. It was an insane obsession. I obviously got a lot stronger as I went from being able to do one pullup to doing like 10 in a row despite weighing 70 lbs more and I could lift almost twice as much as when I started at some things, but I didn't look ripped at all. I just got thicker and fatter looking everywhere, including my arms. Then I was on all kinds of antidepressants that made me lose interest in working out and the end result was that I lost most of the muscle and got even fatter due to the slower metabolism, ending up close to 240lbs. Living in Seattle during graduate school I developed a new obsession with hiking and thus wanted to get thinner. Now I want to be able to climb mountains. I managed to climb Mt. Stuart in the state of Washington last year. It was amazing. I'm probably around 210 lbs now but I'm still kind of fat. I'm not obsessed with my body anymore though. I just want to be more fit.

You keep insulting and offending, as usual. Watch your mouth, or I will report you.

For me, I'm obsessed with things on a power to weight ratio type of thing. I actually don't like being "huge" or whatever, and am fine with looking "skinny." But right now I look like this:
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/116/28069 ... 4494c8.jpg

And wanna look like this:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1pvt ... o1_500.jpg

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xozRc6I8pBU[/youtube]
I wanna be like that. Sheer monster mode. My sister, I showed this to her "So you wanna be a really tiny guy who can lift a bunch of weight?" "Yes."

Unfortunately, I have mesomorph/endomorph genetics, so I get pretty big without even trying to. It sucks for my main sport, as it's dominated by tiny ectomorphs who are 130lbs.

Yeah, I've often gotten like you when I work out. I have a fairly low body fat composition, but most of it is subcutaneous fat, so I often have a buff but not ripped look that looks "soft." Only time I actually got toned and attracted chicks like magnets was when I was 6'2/180 and did a lot of fighting and swimming at the time, not mainly lifting. I think I need to increase protein and reduce grain products, which will suck.

It's more like "professional experience" verses goofballs who obsess over celebrity gossip rags, but mostly, yes.

No. Whether a woman becomes "muscular" depends on her body type.



You have to diet and exercise to loose fat. Period.



Based on your posts, apparently not.

Call me when you get some actual data on what work-outs these women do, or do not, follow.

No. While it affects how much muscle she gains, anypne can gain muscle. Plenty of bikini fitness girls are ectomorphs.



No. The two main laws of thermodynamics state that as long as you eat less than you burn, energy needs to be taken from somewhere. This is the very point of fat storage: to give you energy when you don't get enough of it. There's no such thing as genuine starvation mode.

The very definition of one k/cal is the amount of energy needed to heat one kg of water by one degree celcius. A sh!tload of calories are used just to maintain your core body temperature.



If you can't tell that the bikini fitness women are more muscular than Charlize Theron or Emma Wattson, have your eyes checked. In any gym, most of the girls (i.e. anyone who eats enough protein and has worked out for more than 3 months) who does heavy lifting are more muscular than 99% of all Hollywood actresses.



Most fitness women work out with base lifts, like men. This is stated many times in Fitnessbloggen.no (copy this into Google translate).

Most Hollywood actresses who do workout, do so by "f-ckarounditis" (Google this!) exercise. Martin Berkhan in his famous f-ckarounditis post demonstrates just how little a woman can exercise and still be much more muscular than Jeniffer Aniston, Katie Holmes, Lady Gaga or any other celebrity who would have to lift heavy if they were men.

No. Whether a woman (or man) becomes "muscular" depends on their body type (not whether they can "gain muscle").



No. You have to eat right and exercise to loose weight.

How much one should exercise to lose said weight depends on body type.



Call me when you have actual data on the work-outs these women do, or do not, follow.



Not even remotely close.

Do you know what muscular means? A woman has faintly defined muscles at 20% bodyfat; a typical fitness model has a good 10—15 lbs more worth of muscle than a regular woman. A mesomorphic or endomorphic woman can gain that in her first year because of newbie gains. Multiply the time required by a factor of two and you have the time an ectomorph would need.

An ectomorphic woman wouldn't need to cut much to reach 20% bodyfat (allthough she'd need to cut somewhat to reach the 15—17% a bikini fitness woman has). A mesomorph would probably need to cut for 1—2 months and an endomorph (who needs less food than the former in the first place) can probably do it in 3—4 months.

I've seen scrawny women become muscular and I've seen fat women become muscular. What you do with your genetics means the most. Linda Hamilton has an ectomorphic build; it only took her 6 months to bench 85 lbs for reps in her workout sets at what was probably around 18% bodyfat. She lost weight at the same time, so you could probably cut the time in half if you were on a caloric surplus.



Exercise speeds up the process, but anyone who goes on a caloric deficit will lose weight. There's no starvation mode that God allows to violate the laws of thermodynamics.




http://www.leangains.com/2011/09/fuckarounditis.html

Browse down to nr. 10 and see her workout schedule. She's far more muscular than any of the most popular actresses. If you want to know the reason why, she does base lifts instead of yoga and lifting pink dumbbells. Still, her schedule isn't nearly as heavy as that of Dolph Lundgren, Gerard Butler, Stlvester Stallone or Tom Hardy.



Your average Hollywood actress has no more lean mass than a regular woman; if you disagree, post some proof that she does. If you want to be equally "fit", make sure you never have more than 21-22% bodyfat after you've lost weight.

Yes, and whether a woman becomes "muscular" depends on her body type.



You've almost got the hang of it.



When you actually have data on what every Hollywood actress does, and does not, do in her exercise routine, call me.



You asserted that anyone who does "heavy lifting" for three months will be more "muscular" than 99% Hollywood actresses.

You try supporting your claim first.

Anyone without muscular dystrophy can gain muscle and anyone without thyroid problems can reach a bodyfat level in the low average range. Ergo, most people can get muscular. I already got the hamg of it. The only secret to losing fat while you exercise is that you increase the caloric consumption. Jeniffer Aniston does yoga and is scared of getting bulky by lifting weights. Rihanna does 3 x 30 minute cardio sessions per week. Blake Lively doesn't exercise at all. Emma Stone goes swimming now and then, but not with particularly high intensity. In other words, hardly better than doing nothing and not nearly as tough as what male actors go through. Have you ever tried basing your workout scheme on heavy, intense baselifts for years? It's way harder than lifting pink dumbbells on a bosu ball... Already have, but I'll gladly do it again.

If Hollywood actresses worked out seriously, they'd look like the more muscular girls in this thread:

http://forum.fitnessbloggen.no/threads/før-etterbilder-av-medlemmene.7/


Notice how the girls carry no less muscle than Charlize Theron or Emma Stone in the before pics, but way more muscle in the after pics. If Hollywood standards were fair, any girl in any lightly dressed role would be as muscular as the most muscular girls in THAT thread.

Edit: I was wrong; this chick did it in just two months:

http://asianfanatics.net/forum/topic/77 ... iller-abs/

From skinny fat to more muscular than most Hollywood babes in 8 weeks...

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Anyone can gain muscle. Whether you become "muscular-looking" depends on your body-type.




Yes. Exercise + eating correctly = fat burn/muscle gain.

Glad we cleared that up.



So, all female actresses are represented by three women, and all male actors are extreme body-builders?

And I'm still waiting for actual data on the workout routines of "most" Hollywood actresses.



I don't use pink dumbbells.



......which still doesn't do anything to advance your assertion that "anyone who does heavy lifting for three months" will be more muscular than 99% of Hollywood actresses.

Eating correctly=at least a fat burn, as most Hollywood actresses still have their career if they lose a pound or two of muscle.



Most actresses are about as fit as these women. Sylvester Stallone and his peers aren't extreme bodybuilders; they do lift heavy, though. Contrary to what some women think, four weeks of moderate weight lifting won't turn a man into Hugh Jackman.



Show me one that's significantly more muscular than any of the aforementioned actresses in a role that portrays them as sex symbols or role models.



Never said you did. You seem to fail to realize how much tougher a base workout routine is compared to 30 minutes of cardio three times a week, though.



I'll revoke my statement—this chick did it in just two months:

http://asianfanatics.net/forum/topic/77 ... iller-abs/

From skinny fat (still physically on par with many actresses) to more muscular than most Hollywood babes in 8 weeks...