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14 Oct 2022, 8:41 am

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KamiKwasi is out. About a week between "I'm going nowhere" to under the bus. :lol:
Truss must surely follow.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63257058


The BBC article mentioned that both Kwarteng and Truss were actively pushing the government's recent economic plan, which seems to have been at the heart of the recent political and economic turmoil in the UK.

So why did only Kwarteng step down? If Truss remains as PM, and perhaps even announces another policy U-turn, shouldn't she and Kwarteng be able to sink or swim together?


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14 Oct 2022, 10:21 am

Murihiku wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
KamiKwasi is out. About a week between "I'm going nowhere" to under the bus. :lol:
Truss must surely follow.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63257058


The BBC article mentioned that both Kwarteng and Truss were actively pushing the government's recent economic plan, which seems to have been at the heart of the recent political and economic turmoil in the UK.

So why did only Kwarteng step down? If Truss remains as PM, and perhaps even announces another policy U-turn, shouldn't she and Kwarteng be able to sink or swim together?

Stepped down? I thought he was sacked?



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14 Oct 2022, 10:31 am

He was sacked - he was asked to "step aside".
Now we have Jeremy Hunt as chancellor - and probably her successor.
:cheers: /sarc

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The BBC article mentioned that both Kwarteng and Truss were actively pushing the government's recent economic plan, which seems to have been at the heart of the recent political and economic turmoil in the UK.
That's what it was, a mess - but all she can do is blather on about making difficult decisions, a desperate attempt at looking strong and decisive while being blind to the damage caused.

Her press conference - all four minutes of it - is worth a view here (it's live, so scroll down a bit for it) -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-63221738
A shambles - and she's still blaming everyone else.

Shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves is quoted as offering a more realistic cause: "The undermining of the Bank of England, the sacking of the permanent secretary of the Treasury, the gagging of the Office for Budget Responsibility have all added to the volatility in the financial markets along with the scale of the unfunded tax cuts."

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14 Oct 2022, 10:40 am

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Stepped down? I thought he was sacked?

Yeah, I was a bit confused. The BBC article said that he was "sacked" and "dismissed", but that he was also "standing down".
I didn't know what to make of it.

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He was sacked - he was asked to "step aside".

Okay, this makes sense now. Thanks for that.


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14 Oct 2022, 10:44 am

Sorry - it was actually "stand aside".

Here's his letter to Truss, and her reply -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63259748

They're both blind.


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14 Oct 2022, 11:00 am

His sacking is not enough. They are both a disaster, leaving far too much of their "fiscal event" unfunded - she's going to have to go too:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63243918

Interesting that they neglected to mention how all these exciting Tory plans to "get Britain moving" come after twelve years of Tory government.


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14 Oct 2022, 11:10 am

She's absolutely pathetic, inexcusable and watching her in this conference she is less than unremarkable.

She reminds me of a blow up doll with a puncture


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14 Oct 2022, 11:22 am

Murihiku wrote:
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Stepped down? I thought he was sacked?

Yeah, I was a bit confused. The BBC article said that he was "sacked" and "dismissed", but that he was also "standing down".
I didn't know what to make of it.

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He was sacked - he was asked to "step aside".

Okay, this makes sense now. Thanks for that.

Thanks for correcting the Beeb's muddled story.
I suppose it's a moot point, the main thing being that he's under the bus, but I'm an incorrigible stickler for detail. I often wish I wasn't.

I can hardly wait for Liz to go under the bus too. Barring a miracle, it's going to happen pretty soon. And the Tories' suicidal divisions are now wide open for all to see. Voters don't like parties that aren't unified. Good. What happens to the UK while its leaders are squabbling is another matter, though. Problem is, I don't see how anybody is ever going to fix the broken economy. Hang on, does the royal family have enough money to pay off the national debt?



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14 Oct 2022, 11:25 am

Yes. The church of England could pay off the national debt.


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14 Oct 2022, 5:08 pm

8 minute press conf then she ran off

Amazingly she has made it even worse. Rumours from reputable journalists that MP's are working on plans to kick her out

Also talk that the 1922 have received a lot of letters



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15 Oct 2022, 4:26 am

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That is hilarious. I wonder what the King's reaction to Boris Johnson would be!
A cattle prod, hopefully. :lol:


Hopefully! :lol:

Funny that the King seems to be more on the side of the people than the government is!


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15 Oct 2022, 4:28 am

Beware though folks!

Jeremy Hunt stepping in as Chancellor is his way of getting to be Prime Minister. He's wanted this all along. He is FAR more dangerous than Liz Truss or any of the current government ministers! 8O


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15 Oct 2022, 4:44 am

Is it generally thought she'll be a short lived PM?

She does rather seem like a public high school girl let loose in a lab and trying various formulas, most of them resulting in smelly bangs!

I'm not in the UK but have been trying to keep abreast wirh what seems weirder than fiction.


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15 Oct 2022, 6:02 am

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Beware though folks!

Jeremy Hunt stepping in as Chancellor is his way of getting to be Prime Minister. He's wanted this all along. He is FAR more dangerous than Liz Truss or any of the current government ministers! 8O


For sure. He's sharpening his knife with every word he says.


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15 Oct 2022, 7:09 am

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Is it generally thought she'll be a short lived PM?

She does rather seem like a public high school girl let loose in a lab and trying various formulas, most of them resulting in smelly bangs!

I'm not in the UK but have been trying to keep abreast wirh what seems weirder than fiction.


I can't agree enough. She is like a child with a pop up post office.

It infuriates me when I keep hearing people saying that we have to give her a chance and that she's only five weeks in the job.

You don't get a probationary period with this. It's not a youth training scheme or a f*****g paper round.


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15 Oct 2022, 8:08 am

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Jeremy Hunt stepping in as Chancellor is his way of getting to be Prime Minister. He's wanted this all along. He is FAR more dangerous than Liz Truss or any of the current government ministers! 8O
Sadly true. Truss is just an inept idiot, but Hunt has focus.

Someone made an apt comment on him, accidentally:
Miriam Margolyes swears about Jeremy Hunt on BBC Radio 4 – audio

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She is like a child with a pop up post office.
:lol: Yep, exactly.

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It infuriates me when I keep hearing people saying that we have to give her a chance and that she's only five weeks in the job.

You don't get a probationary period with this. It's not a youth training scheme or a f*****g paper round.
Spot on - and worse, she's not entirely without ministerial experience. You'd think that would have helped her be just a little less incompetent.


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