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12 May 2013, 5:08 pm

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAQ8J7vDy4E[/youtube]

I know lesbians don't have it that easy, but otherwise it is still funny and shows the double standard


I don't think it does. There's a lot wrong with that video but I guess this isn't the place to for me to go on a rant about it.


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12 May 2013, 5:29 pm

^^^
can you patiently explain to me, what is wrong with that video?



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12 May 2013, 5:31 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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can you patiently explain to me, what is wrong with that video?


It basically all hinges on the fact that a conservative rural community wouldn't be much, if any more, tolerant of lesbians than they would of gay men...especially if they weren't feminine.


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12 May 2013, 6:00 pm

^^^
aha, I thought there was something wrong, but I couldn't put my finger on it 'til you mentioned that little detail.



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13 May 2013, 3:12 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/user/MYN4M3D035N07M4773R[/youtube]


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13 May 2013, 8:14 am

"But you support the Muslims".

What a ridiculous strawman. Plus it sort of shows that you are obsessed against a minority.


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16 May 2013, 6:55 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tF_o_PqGCU[/youtube]



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16 May 2013, 10:24 am

^^^^^ :lol:


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16 May 2013, 7:01 pm

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16 May 2013, 9:15 pm

puddingmouse wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
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can you patiently explain to me, what is wrong with that video?


It basically all hinges on the fact that a conservative rural community wouldn't be much, if any more, tolerant of lesbians than they would of gay men...especially if they weren't feminine.


Sorry, the double standard I was really talking about was how there are people who even though believe gayness is sinful or otherwise dirty and should not be allowed, are turned out by lesbians and some go to the extreme of watching lesbian porn, makes me wonder why wouldn't they feel any cognitive dissonance out of it. They'd also not think of two lesbians as two people who love each other, but as two objects whose purpose is to kiss each other for the benefit of any guys that might be watching. The original Brokeback Mountain was also set in a conservative rural community, that would explain why this one was as well. I'd also be interested on knowing more about the subject.


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17 May 2013, 6:18 am

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They'd also not think of two lesbians as two people who love each other, but as two objects whose purpose is to kiss each other for the benefit of any guys that might be watching.


The two are not mutually exclusive.

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17 May 2013, 10:41 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
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They'd also not think of two lesbians as two people who love each other, but as two objects whose purpose is to kiss each other for the benefit of any guys that might be watching.


The two are not mutually exclusive.

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One thing you don't seem to grasp is that people aren't objects.



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18 May 2013, 7:07 am

kouzoku wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Shatbat wrote:
They'd also not think of two lesbians as two people who love each other, but as two objects whose purpose is to kiss each other for the benefit of any guys that might be watching.


The two are not mutually exclusive.

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One thing you don't seem to grasp is that people aren't objects.


Merriam Webster wrote:
1 a: something material that may be perceived by the senses <I see an object in the distance>
b: something that when viewed stirs a particular emotion (as pity) <look to the tragic loading of this bed … the object poisons sight; let it be hid — Shakespeare>

2 a: something mental or physical toward which thought, feeling, or action is directed <an object for study> <the object of my affection> <delicately carved art objects>
b: something physical that is perceived by an individual and becomes an agent for psychological identification <the mother is the primary object of the child>

3 a: the goal or end of an effort or activity : purpose, objective <their object is to investigate the matter thoroughly>
b: a cause for attention or concern <money is no object>

4: a thing that forms an element of or constitutes the subject matter of an investigation or science

5 a: a noun or noun equivalent (as a pronoun, gerund, or clause) denoting the goal or result of the action of a verb
b: a noun or noun equivalent in a prepositional phrase

6 a: a data structure in object-oriented programming that can contain functions as well as data, variables, and other data structures
b: a discrete entity (as a window or icon) in computer graphics that can be manipulated independently of other such entities


The definition of the noun "object" does not exclude people, however much some people might object.

People are material, and can be perceived by the senses.

Definition 2 even includes a person as an example of an object.

At the risk of being spanked for sexism once again: people do constitute a subset of objects.



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01 Jun 2013, 1:34 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy2Eq81lAu4[/youtube]