Palestinian Children Are Taught Violent Antisemitism

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Things like this don't help the Israeli side much in the political aspect of this ongoing war...


Israeli soldiers admit 'shoot first' policy in Gaza offensive

"Anonymous testimonies collated by human rights group also contain allegations that Palestinians were used as human shields"

Why am I a hate monger? Israeli's and Jews love to use terms like that towards people that don't agree with killing as many Palestinians as possible and taking their land.

Read here an Israeli's examination of the history of Israeli Arab relations.

http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/cha ... 206829001/

Isn't it obvious ?
Read your message again
it's all just a simple propaganda meant to incite hatred
no background,no truth,no acknowledgment of the complexity of the situation and the historical events which led to this mess
just the same old "killing as many Palestinians as possible"
it is so stupid,unhelpful and tiring
it's too stupid even to count as a proper lie
do u really think that any sane person would believe that Israel is killing as many Palestinians as possible ?
i doubt that even u are that stupid
So what other incentive u have then spreading hatred to a region that already have more than enough of it?

If this were true, there would be no Palestinians left. The Israelis have the capability to relegate Palestine and Lebanon to the history books, and yet they have not done so. Does this tell you anything?

Perhaps it indicates that not only do they want the land but they enjoy the drawn out sadism of slowly grinding an opponent to dust. The American experience with the native Indians runs along the same lines except the Palestinians have not yet acquired the technology to build gambling casinos to bilk the Israelis the way the American Indians have managed in the USA.

I an not really serious about this but the Jews have had the other end of the very shi tty stick for centuries and there may be a very slight element of psychological truth in it.

Last edited by Sand on 27 Jul 2009, 7:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.

This article clearly outlines the present situation in Gaza and indicates just how strong Israeli concerns are for the population in Gaza.

http://www.counterpunch.org/kysia07272009.html

Flames of hatred--an icy topic

This thread is, like many, a double edged sward. Not replying and replying accomplish the same thing. Snowball effect. Feeding the flames.

At any rate, as long as politics preys on the minds of both peoples, there is never going to be peace. Even if the land issue is somehow resolved (which I doubt) there will be those who are not satisfied until either people are driven into the sea.

Perhaps the Israelis can afford to be driven. The Palestinians probably will have to walk.

That's assuming Israel would face no repercussions from the world stage if they were to do such actions. They've been careful to do enough to not provoke an out and out war from any of the European or Asian powers while still doing as much possible in the way of oppression, continuance of the building of settlements, and using thug tactics (shoot first, human shield, shooting unarmed civilians, use of white phosphorus in heavily civilian areas) when engaging militarily with people who are roughly 30 or 40 years behind technologically. These actions are not that of a country looking for any kind of peace with their neighbors. It's not to say the citizens are responsible but that their unchecked leadership and the extremes of religion are responsible.

I'm amused by the whole "we could have killed you all long ago had we wished it, therefore we are pure", line of reasoning. That argument was used by the aliens in "Plan Nine From Outer Space".

As I said before, you wipe out those that you fear. The Israelis' purpose was fulfilled by expelling 750,000 people in 1947-48. That done, they could play cat and mouse with those unfortunate to be caught behind their "security perimeter". The Palestinians play the game by going out of their way to be "steadfast" - and this annoys the Israelis no end and they lash out often at this tactic that out-Gandhis Gandhi - though naturally this is not recognised here in the West. In the West, there were two phases - one, Palestinians didn't exist because they didn't kill anyone, they were just the losers of history, and phase two, Palestinians were horrible Nazi monsters because they actually used violence as part of their resistance methods, and therefore it was legitimate to kill any one of them at any time for that crime of being born as Nazi monsters.

i must say that i was surprised to encounter such ignorance and simplistic set of mind in an AS site
AS suppose to be well informed and into details and complexities but this thread sound like a cliche
like some twisted parody of an hate site
the AS i know prefer knowledge upon preconceptions
i don't care so much for your idea but your ignorance is appalling
and ignorance breed hate and death
what i like best (not) about american and European posters is the high nose altitude that goes like "oh,the Jew and the Arabs are so primitive and violent and stupid,let's them kill each other so we can munch on out gigantic hamburger quitly"

provoke war with what powers ?
the Russian who are slaughtering their minorities,leveling entire cities, for centuries with not as much as a sqwick from the "enlightened" world
with the Chinese who are behind the worst war crimes in our times
Do u think that any one in Israel gives a dame about the Europeans
most of them collaborated very happily with the genocide of our people and it wasn't so long ago
my parents experienced it first hand
seriously,only total moron would listen to an American or a European lecturing moral values
u r the worst
Israel would never steep to your level
and it never did

now some info which would probably wasted on your narrow minds
shooting first is very bad but it is not a thug tactics but a necessity when u fight in an crowded urban area where any civilian could draw a weapon
Israelis cares more about their soldiers live than on the enemy, we are not holly like you,we love our children a bit more then we love our enemy children
(many of the enemy children are getting first rate treatment in Israeli hospitals and are cared for free of charge by Israeli volunteers,(this too must remind some of you
of the ways Jewish ghetto children were treated by the Nazis))
did the American or the European ever bothered to phone people in a war zone to give them time to find shelter ?
no,they just wiped and entire village in order to get the cousin of some terrorist
and they r doing it half a world a way without a single shot or a rocket ever fired at them
Israel took thousands of them for years,from an areas we cleared in order to give some chance to positive and peaceful process,and when finally there is no alternative but to go in and stop the targeting of Israeli civilians it turns out that Israel is worst than the Nazis
u have to be a total moron to even imagine that anyone gives a @ about your nonsense
Do you think that possessing a modern army obligate you to sit still and watch your people killed and cities targeted just because the enemy is possessing not as advances weaponry as you ?
it must be great to be you,lot of fun/

i find it interesting that all the people in this thread so conveniently ignoring that it was Israel who invited Arafat and the PLO back to the region
supplied him with weapons and facilities
(his brothers the Jordanian slaughtered ten of thousands of his people and kicked him away but king Husein would be always remembered as a man of peace,probably because his wife so beautiful and talks English with the right american accent)
life could be so easy if only the facts would support your hatred of Israel,the ethnic cleanser,the "jenocider",the wrath of the world
unfortunately for the ignoramus facts are available
the Arab-Israeli conflict led to the death of about 60,000 Arabs,most of them in a war initiated by the Arabs,few thousands of them are Palestinians
and this number is for a conflicts that rages on for more than a 100 years
the worst conflict in the world who "enjoys" the most attention to it from the media and the international organization
many people,even on this thread comapres it to the holocaust no less

does any one knows the number of Arabs killed by Arabs in the last centuries ?
the number of Muslims killed in European by the Russian and in Bosnia
by France in Algiers
by Somalia,Indonesia,Iraq,sirya,Jordan,yaman...
is around tens of millions

Jordan who present itself as the forefront for the Arab struggle killed in one day more Palestinians that israel ever did in 100 years of endless clashes
sirya killed in one day more Muslims than Israel ever did ?
and please do not forget that unlike this countries Israel also lost many many life's(Israel population size is about the size of a medium city,few millions)

i find it a bit interesting that non of those countries and massacres enjoyed your much apreaciated care for human life and values
it's also interesting that non of this countries ever feared global inervention
in short
u r bunch of hypocrites and no one cares what you think

That's a very interesting viewpoint. People have been slaughtering each other for centuries and therefore Israel is above criticism for doing the same thing. What the hell. It's only human.

I really don't believe you don't know what's going on in Gaza.

That's wasn't the viewpoint ,
The argument,which u obvious missed(as expected) was that Israel,unlike all the countries mentioned above,is not slaughtering the Palestinians but is in a long complicated battle for it's survival and i wasn't saying that Israel is above criticism(i criticize Israel all the time) but was saying that your input is worth less because you r hypocrite and ignorant who compares the situation in Gaza to the situation in the Warsaw Ghetto
criticism should be as fair and as objective as possible and yours in anything but/

i do not care what u believe
i have friends in Gaza which i help the best i could and i talk with them on a regular basis
i know real life
all u know is politics and propaganda

The everlasting pleading about how Israel is on the point of total destruction is a rather disgusting whine from a country possessing atomic weapons and one of the most powerful military forces in the area. Please!!

I've only seen one person with ignorant, hypacritical veiws in this thread and that's you nara44. In nearly every other post you are calling someone a holocaust denier who twists the truth because they hate jews. You should feel ashamed trivialising what the jewish race have endured in their history, most moderate jews would feel sick by some of the things you have posted in this thread.