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21 Sep 2009, 1:55 am

I thought this thread was about testicle sucking. :?


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21 Sep 2009, 2:07 am

That hat is pretty cool actually. :lol:



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21 Sep 2009, 2:10 am

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That hat is pretty cool actually. :lol:


It's more than cool. It's absolute zero.



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21 Sep 2009, 3:36 am

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That hat is pretty cool actually.


I actually wondered if the hat's maker knew exactly what he was saying - I don't see that one as making the tea-partiers look bad - it's more a taunt than anything.

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The administration just believes that millions of Americans going without healthcare, and thousands even dying because of it, are slighly higher on the priority list.


Just because something must be done, doesn't mean any old thing should be done. That's the main beef about the current healthcare bill. 80% of Americans polled are at least satisfied with their current healhcare arrangements, yet congress and the admin want to change the system for all 100% of Americans, not just the lower 20%. whether they want the change or not. That's what the healthcare debate is about, not the Presidential scrotum.



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21 Sep 2009, 3:42 am

DolcetTones wrote:
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That hat is pretty cool actually.


I actually wondered if the hat's maker knew exactly what he was saying - I don't see that one as making the tea-partiers look bad - it's more a taunt than anything.

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The administration just believes that millions of Americans going without healthcare, and thousands even dying because of it, are slighly higher on the priority list.


Just because something must be done, doesn't mean any old thing should be done. That's the main beef about the current healthcare bill. 80% of Americans polled are at least satisfied with their current healhcare arrangements, yet congress and the admin want to change the system for all 100% of Americans, not just the lower 20%. whether they want the change or not. That's what the healthcare debate is about, not the Presidential scrotum.


And in 10 years 30% of Americans will be senior citizens and no longer income earners. Maybe they will still be satisfied with their health care, but the fact is they are going to have age related health problems, and when they do, the insurance companies are going to take it out on the working adults. Rates will sky rocket.

So its damned if you do, damned if you dont.


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21 Sep 2009, 4:11 am

DolcetTones wrote:
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That hat is pretty cool actually.


I actually wondered if the hat's maker knew exactly what he was saying - I don't see that one as making the tea-partiers look bad - it's more a taunt than anything.

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The administration just believes that millions of Americans going without healthcare, and thousands even dying because of it, are slighly higher on the priority list.


Just because something must be done, doesn't mean any old thing should be done. That's the main beef about the current healthcare bill. 80% of Americans polled are at least satisfied with their current healhcare arrangements, yet congress and the admin want to change the system for all 100% of Americans, not just the lower 20%. whether they want the change or not. That's what the healthcare debate is about, not the Presidential scrotum.


As I pointed out, about 45,000 Americans die each year from treatable causes because of inadequate health care. This is a very strange view of patient satisfaction.



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21 Sep 2009, 4:58 am

Actually "Czar" Nicholas II wasn’t even a czar officially. The title was archaic even then.



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21 Sep 2009, 5:26 am

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*sigh* People are really **THAT** dumb to think McCarthyism was a good thing?

Well you have to admit a large component of American politics stems from that era. It has ebbed a little, but not nearly enough.

50s: Plastic hair, Jell-O™ parties, suburban Americana, duck and cover, Elvis, perfection, patriotism™ and paranoia.

I’ve seen many pickets and signs. I’m no fan of Bush or Blair but there were some dumb signs made of those two. However, I am simply astounded at the number of ironic signs in these teabag protests. You couldn’t make it up.



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21 Sep 2009, 7:27 am

DolcetTones wrote:
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That hat is pretty cool actually.


I actually wondered if the hat's maker knew exactly what he was saying - I don't see that one as making the tea-partiers look bad - it's more a taunt than anything.

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The administration just believes that millions of Americans going without healthcare, and thousands even dying because of it, are slighly higher on the priority list.


Just because something must be done, doesn't mean any old thing should be done. That's the main beef about the current healthcare bill. 80% of Americans polled are at least satisfied with their current healhcare arrangements, yet congress and the admin want to change the system for all 100% of Americans, not just the lower 20%. whether they want the change or not. That's what the healthcare debate is about, not the Presidential scrotum.


but why is an Aussie so rivited on health care in the States, DolcetTones? That is what is puzzling me.


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21 Sep 2009, 7:52 am

DolcetTones wrote:
Just because something must be done, doesn't mean any old thing should be done. That's the main beef about the current healthcare bill. 80% of Americans polled are at least satisfied with their current healhcare arrangements, yet congress and the admin want to change the system for all 100% of Americans, not just the lower 20%. whether they want the change or not. That's what the healthcare debate is about, not the Presidential scrotum.

The majority of Americans are in favor of health care reform including a public option, as are the majority of physicians. The healthcare reform debate is largely from entrenched Republican opposition and the insurance industry that has a financial stake in the issue.


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21 Sep 2009, 8:32 am

Tempest in a teacup topic

Murrickans love to protest. Very fractionalized country. I am surprised there is any unity at all, despite the term United States.


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21 Sep 2009, 10:12 am

0_equals_true wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
*sigh* People are really **THAT** dumb to think McCarthyism was a good thing?

Well you have to admit a large component of American politics stems from that era. It has ebbed a little, but not nearly enough.

50s: Plastic hair, Jell-O™ parties, suburban Americana, duck and cover, Elvis, perfection, patriotism™ and paranoia.

I’ve seen many pickets and signs. I’m no fan of Bush or Blair but there were some dumb signs made of those two. However, I am simply astounded at the number of ironic signs in these teabag protests. You couldn’t make it up.


I agree...but at least they call for mistakes that we haven't already made as a country....just mistakes that others have made. This current incarnation is calling for us to make the same mistakes we've already made a la McCarthyism.

And yes, it very much established our identity because we made our identity back then "not the USSR". We can't base our identity anymore on not being another country...that's Canada's bag, anyways.

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21 Sep 2009, 10:19 am

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that's Canada's bag, anyways.


Thats right! Stop trying to copy our not-being-like-you routine! It really makes it confusing who we.. arent. Or something.


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21 Sep 2009, 11:02 am

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skafather84 wrote:
that's Canada's bag, anyways.


Thats right! Stop trying to copy our not-being-like-you routine! It really makes it confusing who we.. arent. Or something.


Indeed. Canada is a special place, full of very special people, and don't let anyone tell you that it's not, buddy!



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21 Sep 2009, 2:15 pm

EC wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
that's Canada's bag, anyways.


Thats right! Stop trying to copy our not-being-like-you routine! It really makes it confusing who we.. arent. Or something.


Indeed. Canada is a special place, full of very special people, and don't let anyone tell you that it's not, buddy!


One of those special people topic

Yup. :mrgreen:


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21 Sep 2009, 2:22 pm

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but why is an Aussie so rivited on health care in the States, DolcetTones? That is what is puzzling me.


A fair qeestion. As an Aspie, I have my obsessions. The US is one, particularly the politics. When Jay Leno used to do Jay-Walking to show how little ordinary folk knew about their own country, I generally did a lot better than the people he was questioning. Healthcare wouldn't be my argument of choice in such a subject field, but it is one of the current hot-button issues.

Also, as a rather poor guy living in a country where I have to rely on the socialised half of the medical sector, I can see the faults of public sector health provision. To have equality in access to a poor system isn't a noble goal, IMO.

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As I pointed out, about 45,000 Americans die each year from treatable causes because of inadequate health care. This is a very strange view of patient satisfaction.


Changing to an overcrowded public system where even more people die waiting in hospital queues is hardly a good option. "We had to destroy the system to save it" isn't a wise course of action, IMO.