A civil war thread: Atheists vs Agnostics.

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Good point, Sand. We should elect a nice solid granite President.

That should do nicely.

I can't say if it's encouraging but the present US government seems to be acting decidedly as if it had rocks in its heads.

Whether Christian, Agnostic, Atheist, or any other religion or lack of, what about people who worship at the altars of sex, love, money, power, drugs, crime, etc., first and foremost? Are they false idol worshippers, polytheists, merely misguided, satanic, what?

In my personal opinion, I think that the concept of agnosticism (its common meaning is denial of ultimate knowledge of the existence of God or lack of knowledge about God/s) is totally useless and nonsense.

How many Christians say "God has his mysterious ways" ? , then those Christians are partly agnostics since they lack the ultimate of God and his ways.

Agnosticism is like : "oh , I am not sure if god exists, but if he may exists then I am not sure whether he is God , Allah or Akiwawa."

Agnosticism takes neutral ground and claim that the evidence and arguments on both sides of the debate over the existence of God are basically equal. To them , neither side has the advantage and so they avoid to take any side.

Also agnostics are seen as people who are no-committed to any religion people, how many Christians and Muslims are like this? There are plenty. Agnosticism is a lack of knowledge, not lack of commitment and not even a lack of belief, a belief means accept a specific proposition as totally true no-matter what and even agnostics may believe in one of the gods.

Agnosticism claims that no one has the humans are simply not capable to prove whether a creator/supreme being/akiwawa exists or not.

Agnosticism is not as reasonable as it might at first seem. Atheism is simple math and its only position in the god/no-god argument that logic supports unless anyone can offer any suggestive evidence that the god theory may be correct which would result in changed probabilities through changed constants, no one has done that yet.

I would like to think of agnosticism as rather one who keeps asking questions like a scientist rather then summing up everything with a be-all-end-all conclusion. I only base my conclusions on what's been proven, but even that which has been proven may change in time.

I think Benjamin Franklin couldn't have said it better:

"Nothing is certain but death and taxes."