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believe me im just now starting out its been a up hill battle ever since i became an adult

response to O.P. first post:

The only people we are brother/sister to are folks we share parents with. Anyone else is at most a cousin of some degree. And being related biologically does not create any positive obligations. Positive ethical obligations are the result of contracts willingly entered into. Positive legal obligations are positive obligations imposed on us by law such as reporting crimes that we happen to see.

ruveyn

I only casually glanced at some of the OP and very little at other responses, so please forgive if I'm echoing or completely missing the point.

A few posters in this thread know how contentiously I disagree with them on many things. But as far as changing the Constitution of the United States--I think making changes, especially many of the changes proposed (if we are to take it seriously), would be dangerous to the freedoms we are guaranteed. The fact that we are allowed to set up and communicate openly on forums at all is owed to the fact that we don't have to fear a governmental entity stepping in and arresting us for expressing controversial views or disagreements with government policy.

As a religious conservative, I get why one might want to include "family-oriented" language in a Constitutional document. The trouble with something like that is not everyone is going to agree exactly what those values are or how or to what extent they should be enforced/imposed on the people. The issue of homosexuals being stoned--regardless of my views on homosexuality, a federal death penalty (stoning???) is a little harsh in our day and time.

I think the establishment of a theocracy on a privately-owned island somewhere might be the best bet if you want to set up that kind of government. It's your government, you can do what you wish. I think there probably should, at the very least, be included some kind of special provision for disagreement for dissenters to at least transport them safely off the island. Killing people who disagree with you is never a very nice thing to do, and since most people would sympathize with dissenters on at least this one matter, you're setting up your government for a relatively short life.

Just a few of my own thoughts, anyway.

First of all who are Americans? By Americans do you mean the tribes that inhabited the land prior to European conquest? Because ethnically they are as close as you will get to American's. The rest are europeans, africans, asians, mixed heritage and so on. It's the same with Australia. The massacre and destruction of the native peoples of the world is a stain on the hands on european history which cannot be washed away. That said, it's not as if African's haven't butchered and enslaved their own people enough over the years...the whole world stinks.