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ruveyn wrote:
Raptor wrote:
I don't work directly for the US government but for a government contractor. It is a services contract so we ( meaning I ) work with federal and contractor employees every day.
I can tell you that it's hit or miss with the quality and integrity of both government and contractor employees.
Some are very conscientious and honest while others are criminally complacent. Most are somewhere just below middle so on average you have mediocracy at best.
I could write volumes on the corruption, deception, waste of resources, and fraud I've seen go down.
And, no, it won't get fixed. It won't allow itself to be fixed so the only thing left is to control its growth.
So the question is how much of your life do you really want to have run by mediocre bureaucrats?
I can tell you that it's hit or miss with the quality and integrity of both government and contractor employees.
Some are very conscientious and honest while others are criminally complacent. Most are somewhere just below middle so on average you have mediocracy at best.
I could write volumes on the corruption, deception, waste of resources, and fraud I've seen go down.
And, no, it won't get fixed. It won't allow itself to be fixed so the only thing left is to control its growth.
So the question is how much of your life do you really want to have run by mediocre bureaucrats?
Up until 1968 I to worked for firms contracting with governments (federal and state). I saw so much crap that it sickened me, so I vowed right then and their never to work for a firm that does business with the United States. From then on I worked as a contractor for purely private firms that did not do government contract work. I earned a good living and I was finally quit of government work. I worked for over 35 years without taking a cent by way of a government contract. I rendered myself squeaky clean.
ruveyn
I know exactly what you mean the people who run the government are the most ignorant inept and wasteful people I have ever dealt with which is why government should have a major down size. All they know how to do is cause problems where there aren't any and waste time and money but oh no liberals what a giant mage government that is what will save us
03 Nov 2013, 8:58 am
Raptor wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Raptor wrote:
I don't work directly for the US government but for a government contractor. It is a services contract so we ( meaning I ) work with federal and contractor employees every day.
I can tell you that it's hit or miss with the quality and integrity of both government and contractor employees.
Some are very conscientious and honest while others are criminally complacent. Most are somewhere just below middle so on average you have mediocracy at best.
I could write volumes on the corruption, deception, waste of resources, and fraud I've seen go down.
And, no, it won't get fixed. It won't allow itself to be fixed so the only thing left is to control its growth.
So the question is how much of your life do you really want to have run by mediocre bureaucrats?
I can tell you that it's hit or miss with the quality and integrity of both government and contractor employees.
Some are very conscientious and honest while others are criminally complacent. Most are somewhere just below middle so on average you have mediocracy at best.
I could write volumes on the corruption, deception, waste of resources, and fraud I've seen go down.
And, no, it won't get fixed. It won't allow itself to be fixed so the only thing left is to control its growth.
So the question is how much of your life do you really want to have run by mediocre bureaucrats?
Up until 1968 I to worked for firms contracting with governments (federal and state). I saw so much crap that it sickened me, so I vowed right then and their never to work for a firm that does business with the United States. From then on I worked as a contractor for purely private firms that did not do government contract work. I earned a good living and I was finally quit of government work. I worked for over 35 years without taking a cent by way of a government contract. I rendered myself squeaky clean.
ruveyn
It's a safe bet that it's gotten a lot worse since 1968.
Says the employee of a government contractor.
03 Nov 2013, 9:08 am
03 Nov 2013, 9:55 am
ruveyn wrote:
number5 wrote:
I do think the analogy is appropriate because it's not as simple as burning a draft card and not serving. The act of not serving puts you personally at risk of incarceration, or you become a fugitive and run. Either way, there is a personal sacrifice that was made on the left that remains unmatched by the right. The Tea Party has no courage behind their convictions and by their unwillingness to be out of some cash, has again illustrated that they are driven solely by greed.
In other words, you think the Tea Party folk should BOTH be taxed AND not make use of the services they were forced to pay for. It ain't going to happen.
ruveyn
Well, your hero, Mitt Romney, refused Medicare when he turned 65. At least he isn't a complete hypocrite, and has some convictions.
Why don't you guys all emulate him? You're going to have a very hard time convincing normal people that Medicare is a bad deal, if people on your side keep signing up for it.
And, just because you don't make use of a public service doesn't mean that you should be absolved of paying taxes for it. You are never going to get a ride in a space ship. Does that mean that you shouldn't have to pay for NASA? You will probably never take a trip to Iraq to see and enjoy any of our brilliant reconstruction projects. Does that mean that you shouldn't have to pay for them? Hopefully, you will never get to see the inside of a prison. Does that mean that you shouldn't pay for prisons?
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