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30 Nov 2010, 7:50 pm

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I think there's a distinct difference between art and entertainment. Entertainment is an industry (business) that feeds off profit. Art is more about expression. The two do not always go hand in hand. IMO, art should be free of the concerns of others, but I can see an argument for ethical responsibility regarding the entertainment industry. But then the question becomes "what falls under which category?" IMO, anything that is produced by a third party tends to fall under the entertainment category, but of course, not always. I guess it's just a matter of taste.


There are different kinds of art. To toss away drama as an art form is a pretty drastic concept. Just about all drama is for money and it only generates money because it is art. It takes art to entertain someone.


A matter of taste. I think of art as being more raw. Once an art is contrived for a paying audience, I feel like something is often lost. Not always, of course. Personally, I tend to enjoy independent forms of art much more than produced art, but that's my own personal taste. Many people find Justin Bieber and CSI Miami artful, and that's fine.


The many forms of art require a certain familiarity with each form to appreciate their approaches. And within each form there are many variations. The Marx Brothers and Mickey Mouse undoubtedly have appeal to different audiences although I admire both.and they both make lots of money and require a good deal of art. No individual can sensibly declare any art form out of bounds whatever their personal taste.


Perhaps I misarticulated (made up word?) my point. All I'm trying to say is that entertainment is not always art and art is not always entertainment. Where those differences occur is completely subjective, but there are differences.

A better example might be a game show. Certainly a form of entertainment, but is it art?


As a graphic parallel look at the world of Andy Warhol. Yes, a game show is indeed art and it reveals deeply some of the more bizarre aspects of modern life. But it must be viewed with sophisticated understanding.



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30 Nov 2010, 8:02 pm

leejosepho wrote:
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I still don't know what the issue at hand really is.

Is there an ethic, a morality, an accountability and/or any social responsibility to be considered and held up within the entertainment industry?

Ok? But... here's where I am getting confused. You don't seem to be addressing this in a manner that I can really grasp where you are going. I think it is due to insufficient clarity. After all, I would tend to hold that the entertainment industry should be held to not commit accounting fraud, or murder people, but beyond that, I wouldn't say anything else is off-limits. I don't know where you were trying to go with "pushing vulgarity" and talking about a TV show.



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30 Nov 2010, 9:07 pm

leejosepho wrote:
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I still don't know what the issue at hand really is.

Is there an ethic, a morality, an accountability and/or any social responsibility to be considered and held up within the entertainment industry?


Yes. Give the audience what they paid for.

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01 Dec 2010, 4:29 pm

" But it must be viewed with sophisticated understanding."

Oooh - gotta get me some of that so I can appreciate Wheel of Fortune



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01 Dec 2010, 7:26 pm

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" But it must be viewed with sophisticated understanding."

Oooh - gotta get me some of that so I can appreciate Wheel of Fortune


Your snide disdain for intellectual comprehension is outstanding. Pride in stupidity is not a pleasant attribute.



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01 Dec 2010, 8:10 pm

I noticed that about pride in stupidity.

I think you have your pronouns mixed up, though.



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01 Dec 2010, 10:19 pm

I would surmise that any ethics in entertainement would be up to the higher-ups to decide, or to whichever artistic community the entertainer belongs to. =.=