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How can a defender of the American health care system describe the Canadian system as unsustainable when it produces superior outcomes for lower prices and has these prices under far better control? The only reason that the Canadian system has lost ground in recent years is "Starve the Beast" policies carried out by Right Wing neoliberal politicians. The one weakness with a health care system under the auspices of government is that evil, stingy governments captured by the Plutocracy can easily de-fund it. The problem in the end is the Right wing, it's Plutocracy, it's that the people who yelled at Moody's to reduce Canada's credit rating got away with it and in so doing had the health care system starved of funds as a result, a result that they themsleves wanted. The problem is the Plutocracy, not the health care system.

What can be done? The constitution of Canada can be changed to set up a totally independent public health system that has the right to help itself to whatever money it wants from the government, and be totally free of Plutocratic meddling. It would be a power in and of itself and completely armoured from Plutocratic influence. The other alternative is to develop an Anti-Plutocratic ideology and have it guiding the constitution of Canada and have it drummed into people's heads always, that is after the Plutocracy is crushed. An ideology that says that the greatest evil is allowing a Plutocracy to take root, that it must be smashed before it threatens to emerge.

the rightists who spread spurious "facts" [falsehoods] about canadian healthcare and use it as a convenient whipping boy, are just mad at canada for not totally caving in to the socially darwinist darkside just like their bullyboy southern neighbor, and for giving american "useless eaters" hope that their lot might be better but for the repubs/tea partiers stomping on their dreams. no bully likes to be hindered in their bullying behavior. the canadian system of rationing is much fairer than the cold-blooded american system which gives the poor working class schlub a choice between dying, or a lifetime of ruined finances, IOW a living death.

I'd have to dispute that, when the real estate market was good my parent's estate got into that territory, and as a family net worth it may have made us upper middle class, but definitely not wealthy. I should also point out that both of my parents were entrepreneurs that owned multiple small businesses over the years, and that most of my life my mother has flipped houses as an investment strategy.

In a time when 14% of Americans are on food stamps, yes the $1 million territory is wealthy. The disconnect between the haves and the have nots is huge. This reminds me of an article I recently read about how 250K is not a lot to support a family of 4. The author went on about how after they paid their car payments, maxed out their 529's and 401K's, paid the housekeeper, blah, blah, blah, that they didn't end up having a lot of luxuries. What crap! What world are rich people living in that having a maid is not a luxury?

The middle class of today can barely afford the basics. They're hanging on by a thread. College funds and vacations are pipe dreams. They're lucky enough if they can afford health insurance.

So you're saying let's destroy private business and make everything better?!?!?

Are you out of your mind, Private Businesses are what create jobs particularly small businesses and you are advocating destroying them.

Where in the world did you get that from? I was discussing the estate tax and how a shift from a $1 million exemption to a $5 million exemption is a bad idea that solely serves those who are wealthy.

Still doesn't fly, a business will easily be worth over $5 if they actually own the land and the equipment. Depending on what the business is they could be worth $20 mil or more due to the pieces of machinery, nevermind the fact if the owner dies the business has to be sold off to pay the estate tax.

What are you even talking about? The estate tax is on an individual's estate, not a business. Any business worth that kind of money has an accountant that advises them not to establish the owner as a sole proprietor as that would be foolish, not just for estate planning but also for liability purposes.

Okay, their children will have to work a little to get a PhD. Oh the burden! !! !



Why can't you get this through your head - THE ONLY REASON IT'S "BROKE" IS BECAUSE INCREASINGLY CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENTS HAVE STOPPED FUNDING IT. Every system of healthcare devised requires funds or it'll be "broke".



As I said, of course they'd threaten that. But are well-paid doctors really going to quit practice because RomneyCare National has diminished their lucrative salaries? Where the hell would they go - Europe or Canada?



You're hypocrisy here is pretty disgusting - namely, posioning the well against anything a group founded that receives funds from various different organizations. You really are a hyper-Partisan hack, part of me thinks you aren't serious (crying about people posioning the well as you very well do it) and part of me thinks you really are so deluded by Faux Ideology that you really don't even realize how hypocritical you are. Honestly, you tar FactCheck because its funded an organization in which Bill Ayers was briefly involved with (as a sponsered educational reformist), yet you pull something from a shameless website full of far-right extremists. You are intellectually dishoneast to the highest degree. The Annenberg Public Policy Center - the Chicago Annenberg Challenge was funded by the Annenberg Public Policy Center yet doesn't found FactCheck - funds many organizations. But you - in a depraved fit of intellectual recklessness worthy of Stalin's appreciation - think this means Bill Ayer influences it.

I guess this reveals your latent tolitarian tendencies. Namely speaking, you think foudations that fund education research should ensure only people who toe your party line get funding rather than people most collegial in the field. It's truly the depraved politicization of research you desire, truly Stalinesque.

All democractic socialists are influenced by marxist economic theories and therefore fight a class war on behalf of the lower orders. Also you missed out left-libertarians. Unless they are covered by the term council communism? Anyhow far more people are influenced by marx and are therefore "marxist" than people who support an authoritarian socialism as practiced in the Soviet Union- is the point i was driving at.

Businesses count too under the death tax, which includes, houses, cars, businesses, and any other assets of the individual that just died. In fact the tax is going to be around 45-55%.

Wow stop resorting to knee jerk reactions. Do people not see how transparent emotional outbursts are? You can't be turned down if you go to the hospital for an emergency and you are neither insured nor have money. Even illegal immigrants can be treated. And who pays for that? Tax payers. Just because it's privatized, it doesn't mean there's absolutely no safety net.

Yeah I'm getting pretty sick of it too. Drop your victim mentality, no one owes you s**t and instead of bringing everyone down to your level with your envy, how about bring yourself above them? It's like me sitting on my ass in the gym and wasting my time calling everyone with big muscles juicers rather than going to the bench press and getting big myself. My parents have always owned small businesses and they've prospered through hard work and smart work.

So true.

The absolute evil of the estate tax is that you are taxed on things that were taxed many, many times in the lifetime of the prior owner, and now they want to tax it being transferred to the heirs. A common example of how this hurts the common man is the family farm. Do you have a clue how much even dated farm equipment is worth? Any idea how much LAND is worth with the way property values are going up?

Mom and Pop farmer can have an estate well worth millions and the kids will be forced to sell off the farm to satisfy the tax liabilities when they go to take over the farm. It happens more than people realize, and most common people don't have the savvy to shelter against these taxes with estate plans like the ultra rich ALREADY do.

The estate tax exists in part to prevent the emergence of aristocracy. At the top, money multiplies with the "miracle of compound interest" and profits and the like and this allows for aristocracy if nothing is done to check the growth of these fortunes. To say it's absolute evil to try to stop a handful of families from dominating a country shows a moral compass that is out of order.

It is the ones who control massive fortunes who are responisble for the evil of NAIRU and the Reserve Army of Labour and to increase the power of these people guarantees that NAIRU is always around to ensure a massive Reserve Army of Labour, the members of which are naturally blamed for their own plight whilst these new aristocrats are celebrated for their power grab.

Yes farmers are really agents of the Lizard People of Zamorek out to destroy the world...



Riiiiiight, those Lizard people must be stopped.

Seriously, I doubt most of the people you are calling evil are actually evil and in fact probably most of them are extremely good people.

This is true, provided that the economy in which the assets are located taxes capital gains.

Estate taxes are certainly duplicative of income taxes on a deemed disposition at the time of death, but I think you are trying to have your cake and eat it too if you are not taxed on realized capital gains, and you are claiming an exemption from tax on an estate transfer of untaxed growth.

Don't get me wrong, I don't advocate estate taxes. But I live in a jurisdiction that taxes capital gains, so we don't have the phenomenon of significantly sheltered economic activity.