What is it with Regressive Conservatives anyways?

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I don't know where you're from but here in the US the term "ghetto" usually refers to a neighborhood consisting of blacks or other minority races.

I'm from Kansas and ghetto is usually used to refer to something trashy(missing buttons from a key board for instance) that still works or that has been fiddled with to make it work. I've seen this usage on T.V. So no it does not always refer to black neighborhoods.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ghetto

You'll notice racial elements don't come in at the top.

Your statement seems to be the closest to a joke. You claim to know about the poor, well, detail up, tell me about your life on the ghetto. Oh that's right, I bet that you watched a tv clip about it or something like that. So , you yourself do not know that much about the poor, yet you try to corner the other side by saying they don't know much of the poor...

But, let's for a second agree with your, magical thinking-based assumption about the poor. Your conclusion still makes no-sense. You spend some little, assumption-based work on supposedly, showing that poverty is a mentality, but you forget to show that education can't change mentalities. You know, that whole argument that is completely necessary for your it's a joke when people think education will solve all problems to make any sense. But common knowledge would tell you that education is the only hope one has to be able to change people's mentalities... Therefore, I can claim that if poverty is a mentality , then education is the definite and only solution. How else are you going to take those getho guys out of their mentalities if you never give them a chance of finding out that other mentalities are possible?

So, in fact, if we were to abide by your theory about poverty being a mentality, then we better improve people's education...

To end poverty, first make sure that there are no poverty-wage jobs, and second, abolish NAIRU as policy. This will never happen under our present regime - there's is belief that many jobs must be for poverty wages and that NAIRU is an absolutely necessary policy.

I know! Lets all have equal wages! Then see what happens.

If wages are unequal there are bound to be greatest wages and least wages.

ruveyn

Everyone takes "limited government" too literally. Ugggghhhh here I go again trying to explain it. He believes the government's roles is in protecting the rights of citizens and defending the nation. Drug usage is considered harmful to others, so that's why he believes its within the government's jurisdiction. I don't know why he has such an issue with gay marriage though.

@ Vexcalibur: My point is that education isn't the highest priority in an impoverished neighbourhood because it's a subcultural thing. And it's gonna take a lot more than education because it's a paradigm you're talking about. It's not as simple as telling em "Everything you know about life is wrong" because that's how they'll take it if you challenge their paradigms. And yeah sure, I'm making up my upbringing cuz it doesn't conform to your idealism .

@ marshall: I suppose I should've said "impoverished neighbourhood" instead of ghetto. I just said that cuz I myself grew up in a ghetto. I wasn't trying to just-world hypothesize, I was trying to point out a dysfunctional paradigm that's common among the poor. One thing I was wrong to point out though is a rampant sense of entitlement. That's more of a result of the self-esteem movement in society and it actually affects all classes, but it takes a bigger toll on the poor.

@ Master_Pedant: Winnipeg is some rough s**t, it has the second highest murder rate in Canada. I didn't say the dysfunctional mindset causes or is the result of poverty, but it doesn't help at all.

Weak. By the same reasoning I could easily say that healthcare, housing, and food are within the government's jurisdiction. You have no argument.


The answer is simple: he is a filthy hypocrite. The "limited-government" talk is just a meaningless buzzword to the mainstream American Right. They do not stand on princple, but rather they pursue economic policies to favor the elite and use religious and social bigotry to keep the hoi polloi in line.

Then forget about the lectures about why there are poor people out there and why poverty hasn't been solved. If the regime in power demands things that guarantee poverty then all the lectures in the world won't solve poverty. Stop lecturing the people in the ghetto or wherever else about their alleged inadequacy. If someone does make it out then someone else will be forced in to be in the NAIRU Reserve Army of Labour or to do a job for poverty wages. It's just musical chairs.

I already told you the solution. Equal wages. Of course this will destroy the economy, but we will all end up equally poor and social inequality will disappear.

ruveyn