On eye witnesses testimony as evidence

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Then how can you expect anyone else to believe a single word you say?

Well, for starters i'm not trying to tell you a guy came out of thin air to sell you a car

Irrelevant. Who's trying to tell someone that a guy came out of thin air to sell them a car? Straw man, much? And it has nothing to do with the question.

How can you expect anyone else to believe a single word you say?

The way I see it, this is the logic you're telling me:
1. People have the capacity to tell lies (fib).
2. Therefore, all people are liars.

So, if I apply that logic to you, this is what I get:
3. richardbenson is a person who has the capacity to tell lies.
4. Therefore, richardbenson is a liar.

Are you a liar? Or would assuming that you are a liar merely because you have the capacity to lie be a false assumption?

[Edit: This is not a personal attack on you. Some of your statements contain faulty logic. I don't mind admitting that I don't get it right all the time either, but I also believe "iron sharpens iron."]

No, dude. your not going to trap me in double speak. Yes, I am a liar, everyone lies.
However, I'm not writing a fairy tail (the bible) and expecting people to take my word litterly

Get it now?

What "double speak"? I'm just trying to help you see where your logic is faulty. That's all.

OK. You can admit to being a liar and that everyone lies. I try my very best to represent myself and what I believe honestly, but I do make mistakes and tell lies sometimes. Sometimes I come under pressure and fall into the trap of telling fibs in the heat of the moment, but I really do try not to. You know, if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all, right? It's difficult to be all-truth, all-the-time. We can all agree on that much, I'm sure.

But...

What I'm really asking is this: Does that mean we ALWAYS tell lies?

Whether Jesus Christ lied or not, whether the Apostle Paul lied or not, whether Muhammad lied or not, whether Joseph Smith lied or not, if any of them makes an extraordinary claim and expects us to accept it as truth, then even if he/she is telling the truth, we still need as much confirming evidence as we can get in order to accept the claim as truth. The more extraordinary the evidence, the easier it is to get us to believe.

Uh no? but since you werent a first hand witness to all those amazing storys back then how do you know its true? Mostely from what i gather, religion was a tool born out of necessity. people needed it to explain the world around them