If so many people hate the rich-why don't we get rid of the

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Noob
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07 May 2011, 4:06 pm

I have a lot of respect for William, and his point of view. (Based on the very little info I have)

I am not saying and would never say I don't respect someone who works minimum wage to provide for his family.

If an idea is crazy and unrealistic, why would I have less respect for people who doesn't do it? It doesn't make sense. That's not what I meant.

I don't judge people solely based on money or success, however, I'm talking about two people who have an opportunity. One of them takes it and one of them b*tchs about how they can't do it. If the genuinely can't do it, that's fine but don't be mad at the people that can or do

Given what William says about not watching tv, it's a good example. A tv is cheap to buy but very expensive to own.

If people want to sit in front of the tv b*tching about how lucky rich people are, I find that more than annoying.

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07 May 2011, 4:08 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:

Exactly who hates the rich? Do you have a statistics to show that they are deserving of the words "so many"?

Sorry-my mistake.

Maybe it should have been 'too many.'

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07 May 2011, 5:30 pm

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Actually it does make sense if you have ridiculous expectations of what is possible for someone based on the assumption that everyone has the exact same capabilities. Some people have the possibility to be successful in life but just can't function with the way things are. There are problems and obstacles that people with the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" mentality ignorantly dismiss out of hand. They dismiss the problems and tell the person they aren't "trying hard enough" so they can avoid the other logical conclusion, that some people really can't survive a certain way, at least not without being abjectly miserable every moment of their life. After a while it gets to the point where you just want to tell these people to go f**k themselves or worse because they simply refuse to understand.

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I don't judge people solely based on money or success, however, I'm talking about two people who have an opportunity. One of them takes it and one of them b*tchs about how they can't do it. If the genuinely can't do it, that's fine but don't be mad at the people that can or do

At least make sure you have some actual objective knowledge of what people are dealing with in their lives before accusing them of "bitching" and "not trying". There's nothing worse than subjective opinionated judgements being touted as absolute knowledge of people you don't even know. Also, throwing everyone into the same box and assuming everyone can function the same as someone else if only they "worked equally hard" is irritating.

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07 May 2011, 5:34 pm

We don't have the same capabilities, we have the same opportunities.

Continue with your way of thinking-if it makes you happy and achieves the results you want.

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07 May 2011, 5:39 pm

Noob wrote:

We don't have the same capabilities, we have the same opportunities.

Continue with your way of thinking-if it makes you happy and achieves the results you want.

Exactly.

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07 May 2011, 5:45 pm

Noob wrote:

We don't have the same capabilities, we have the same opportunities.

Continue with your way of thinking-if it makes you happy and achieves the results you want.

Maybe being ignorant and judgemental makes you happier. Good for f*****g you. It doesn't make others happier.

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07 May 2011, 5:46 pm

AceOfSpades wrote:

Noob wrote:

We don't have the same capabilities, we have the same opportunities.

Continue with your way of thinking-if it makes you happy and achieves the results you want.

Exactly.

f**k you.

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07 May 2011, 5:48 pm

marshall wrote:

AceOfSpades wrote:

Noob wrote:

We don't have the same capabilities, we have the same opportunities.

Continue with your way of thinking-if it makes you happy and achieves the results you want.

Exactly.

f**k you.

I love you too.

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07 May 2011, 5:51 pm

AceOfSpades wrote:

marshall wrote:

AceOfSpades wrote:

Noob wrote:

We don't have the same capabilities, we have the same opportunities.

Continue with your way of thinking-if it makes you happy and achieves the results you want.

Exactly.

f**k you.

I love you too.

What justification do you have for agreeing with Noobs BS assumptions about me with zero evidence?

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07 May 2011, 5:57 pm

marshall wrote:

Noob wrote:

We don't have the same capabilities, we have the same opportunities.

Continue with your way of thinking-if it makes you happy and achieves the results you want.

Maybe being ignorant and judgemental makes you happier. Good for f***ing you. It doesn't make others happier.

Ignorant and judgmental? :roll:

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07 May 2011, 5:58 pm

marshall wrote:

AceOfSpades wrote:

marshall wrote:

AceOfSpades wrote:

Noob wrote:

We don't have the same capabilities, we have the same opportunities.

Continue with your way of thinking-if it makes you happy and achieves the results you want.

Exactly.

f**k you.

I love you too.

What justification do you have for agreeing with Noobs BS assumptions about me with zero evidence?

Such as? The fact that he thinks your line of thought is detrimental warrants a tantrum?

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07 May 2011, 6:04 pm

Noob wrote:

marshall wrote:

Noob wrote:

We don't have the same capabilities, we have the same opportunities.

Continue with your way of thinking-if it makes you happy and achieves the results you want.

Maybe being ignorant and judgemental makes you happier. Good for f***ing you. It doesn't make others happier.

Ignorant and judgmental?

What world do you live in where everyone has "the same opportunities". That is quite possibly the most ignorant thing I've heard in my entire life. Absolutely zero connection with reality. Maybe if you could sell me some of that stuff you're smoking I'd be a lot happier too.

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07 May 2011, 6:06 pm

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Maybe if you could sell me some of that stuff you're smoking I'd be a lot happier too.

I doubt it.

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07 May 2011, 6:10 pm

marshall wrote:

Noob wrote:

marshall wrote:

Noob wrote:

We don't have the same capabilities, we have the same opportunities.

Continue with your way of thinking-if it makes you happy and achieves the results you want.

Maybe being ignorant and judgemental makes you happier. Good for f***ing you. It doesn't make others happier.

Ignorant and judgmental?

There's a difference between opportunities and outcomes. Opportunities can be guaranteed but not outcomes.

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07 May 2011, 6:21 pm

AceOfSpades wrote:

marshall wrote:

AceOfSpades wrote:

marshall wrote:

AceOfSpades wrote:

Noob wrote:

We don't have the same capabilities, we have the same opportunities.

Continue with your way of thinking-if it makes you happy and achieves the results you want.

Exactly.

f**k you.

I love you too.

What justification do you have for agreeing with Noobs BS assumptions about me with zero evidence?

Such as? The fact that he thinks your line of thought is detrimental warrants a tantrum?

It's people like you who wish to live in weed smoking libertarian la la land where "everyone" has "the same" opportunities that's detrimental to the health of others. I'm sorry, but there's only so much Yoda talk I can take.

I recognize that I've had a lot of opportunities that others do not have. I also have some severe struggles that others do not. I'm not going to take situations and circumstances for granted and make insulting assumptions about the efforts of others to get by in this life.

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07 May 2011, 6:22 pm

marshall wrote:

I recognize that I've had a lot of opportunities that others do not have. I also have some severe struggles that others do not. I'm not going to take situations and circumstances for granted and make insulting assumptions about the efforts of others to get by in this life.

As long as your opportunities were not wrongfully gotten you need no concern yourself about them.

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