Philologos wrote:
If they are celebrating American independence from England, they are doing what some Americans do on the 4th July.
But you don't consider it a genuine American celebration because they aren't American?
Oodain wrote:
do you think most people that celebrate christmas are firm believers in christ?
Of course not. Why would I?
Oodain wrote:
concepts, words and their meaning change over time, as does tradition, what might have been christian (but didnt start that way) once, aint neccesarily anymore.
Philologos wrote:
If they set off fireworks on July 4th because they like fireworks or to celebrate Tsar Mihail, they may be doing what some Americans do but it ain't no American holiday.
Okay, fair points.