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Ancalagon
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22 Jul 2011, 5:25 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
And you think you can call attention away of the OP.

Why should he not be allowed to do this? If his points are actually good enough to distract people, maybe the OP isn't as interesting as his points.

I don't see anything in the OP other than a rather severe misunderstanding of an article written by a Christian to other Christians.

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A Christian-written article about how they love homosexuals so much that they won't let them marry because all homosexual sex causes AIDS.

That's a rather twisted view of it.

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And also bashing other Christians that seem ok with gay marriage because they don't want to be an annoyance.

The article says that this 'worries' the president of some group. That's a long, long way from bashing.


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22 Jul 2011, 8:01 pm

Vexillifer knows as I do that difference from the norm means you are either a basher or a bashee. On PPR many of us have the privilege of being both.



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24 Jul 2011, 1:35 am

Philologos wrote:
Imagine a bigot. A genuine, no question, everybody will agree and he is proud of it bigot. Picture him.

He says something that he thinks supports his bigotry.

What he says happens to be true.
.............
Now imagine a righteous Mensch. A genuine, even the bigot cannot deny it, upholder of Justice.

He says something that he considers a righteous thing to say.

What he says happens to be hilariously, even sjockingly false.


Uuhhh? :duh: :shrug:



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24 Jul 2011, 7:53 am

LiendaBalla wrote:
Philologos wrote:
Imagine a bigot. A genuine, no question, everybody will agree and he is proud of it bigot. Picture him.

He says something that he thinks supports his bigotry.

What he says happens to be true.
.............
Now imagine a righteous Mensch. A genuine, even the bigot cannot deny it, upholder of Justice.

He says something that he considers a righteous thing to say.

What he says happens to be hilariously, even sjockingly false.


Uuhhh? :duh: :shrug:


Just so - but it is not obvious at the duh level to everyone that the low-browed slime-covered demonic enemy can be right and that the god-like leader might be wrong about something.



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24 Jul 2011, 9:56 am

Philologos wrote:

Just so - but it is not obvious at the duh level to everyone that the low-browed slime-covered demonic enemy can be right and that the god-like leader might be wrong about something.


According the truth or falsity of a statement to the nature of the one who makes it is a well known fallacy: Argument ad hominem. Found in every logic text book printed.

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24 Jul 2011, 10:33 am

ruveyn wrote:
Philologos wrote:

Just so - but it is not obvious at the duh level to everyone that the low-browed slime-covered demonic enemy can be right and that the god-like leader might be wrong about something.


According the truth or falsity of a statement to the nature of the one who makes it is a well known fallacy: Argument ad hominem. Found in every logic text book printed.

ruveyn


Just so. But judging the statement by the speaker and contrariwise the speaker by the statement is practiced natheless by 99 and 44/100th of all practicing pols, who have found that logic butters no parsnips in moving the masses to act against their interest.



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24 Jul 2011, 10:44 am

OP's hypothesis actually supported by recent scientific study which found that oxytocin, the "bonding" hormone, also simultaneously increases/heightens bigotry/racism/prejudice towards those "not in one's own group".

http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... ce-hormone

ie. The more "lovey dovey"/"loving" you feel towards members of your own group the more hostile you are likely to feel towards those outside it.

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