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who are the most likely to be the new Nazi's
Occupy Wall street 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
The Tea Party 23%  23%  [ 9 ]
Neo-Nazi's 18%  18%  [ 7 ]
Israel 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
Muslims!! ! 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
Obama supporters 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
Evangelical Christians 8%  8%  [ 3 ]
A.C.O.R.N. 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
Other (please state in the thread) 30%  30%  [ 12 ]
Total votes : 40

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10 Oct 2011, 12:40 am

:lmao: tell me about it Dox.

I don't think extreme right or left is entirely like the Nazi's. I don't see the right wing in a hurry to round up gays, Polls, Jews, etc. and send them to concentration camps.

Joker the Nazi government did not allow corporations to rule as the government gave little to no rights toward business owners and the government actually owned the business's as well as had extreme government control over every little detail. It was actually one of their weaknesses. The Nazi government was a socialist government and many liberals identify with being socialists but that does not mean liberal socialists necessarily wish to go psycho like Hitler did. Hitler was a freaking psycho path. He was not blue eyed and blond haired and I believe ironically he was half Jew. I have heard hate speech both from extreme right wing and extreme left wing which is why they are both the same coin opposite side. For every argument they have against each other they are both correct about their accusations toward one another which often are the same arguments directed against each other.

This is completely off the original topic though.



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10 Oct 2011, 12:55 am

The poll results are hilarious.

I'm not a huge fan of the tea party, but accusing a bunch of libertarians of being Nazis when they are for limited government is ridiculous.



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10 Oct 2011, 1:08 am

I agree but whoever voted Israel is the next Nazis I find even more amusing.

I am pretty sure the Jews are not planning on having a holocaust against themselves. Does not make much sense if you ask me.



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10 Oct 2011, 1:43 am

I said other, meaning the reactionaries behind the Tea Party, such as Dick Army, who in my humble opinion are today's Nazis. The tea baggers are just their lemmings who Army and the others have convinced to oppose their own social and economic interests in favor of bumper sticker slogans. Their intent is to take political and economic power out of the hands of the middle class and poor and invest it in the corporate elite, while playing their tea bagger pawns off against "the other," in order to divide us.

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10 Oct 2011, 1:50 am

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:lmao: tell me about it Dox.

I don't think extreme right or left is entirely like the Nazi's. I don't see the right wing in a hurry to round up gays, Polls, Jews, etc. and send them to concentration camps.

Joker the Nazi government did not allow corporations to rule as the government gave little to no rights toward business owners and the government actually owned the business's as well as had extreme government control over every little detail. It was actually one of their weaknesses. The Nazi government was a socialist government and many liberals identify with being socialists but that does not mean liberal socialists necessarily wish to go psycho like Hitler did. Hitler was a freaking psycho path. He was not blue eyed and blond haired and I believe ironically he was half Jew. I have heard hate speech both from extreme right wing and extreme left wing which is why they are both the same coin opposite side. For every argument they have against each other they are both correct about their accusations toward one another which often are the same arguments directed against each other.

This is completely off the original topic though.


Hitler wasnt jewish at all that was a lie and it offends the Jewish people when they say Hitler was half Jew.

Take a look at this website about Corporations and the Nazis at least humor me I am the Joker after all.

http://www.businesspundit.com/10-global ... the-nazis/



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10 Oct 2011, 2:00 am

I need something to back up that it is a fact Hitler was not half Jewish I state this more as a rumor as their is no conclusive evidence to either way. Not trying to be offensive but hypocrisy to the highest level is always interesting.

As for the companies they were global companies founded in other countries not in Germany itself. The Germans may have used big corporations but that does not mean they would not work to control them in time. Business's that were in Germany itself were under strong control. Socialism is about society (government) owning the business's. What corporation doesn't take advantage of making money even if its unethical. I hate Ford anyways. I do not support big corporations as I believe many our puppeteers of our government. The invincible hand. Their are two evils that I do not wish to see. A government that has complete control over all business or corporations that have complete control over the government. That is when corporations become the government which is the same ends as extreme government control over business. Its basically when the two merge together.



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10 Oct 2011, 2:06 am

Joker wrote:
Scythe wrote:
:lmao: tell me about it Dox.

I don't think extreme right or left is entirely like the Nazi's. I don't see the right wing in a hurry to round up gays, Polls, Jews, etc. and send them to concentration camps.

Joker the Nazi government did not allow corporations to rule as the government gave little to no rights toward business owners and the government actually owned the business's as well as had extreme government control over every little detail. It was actually one of their weaknesses. The Nazi government was a socialist government and many liberals identify with being socialists but that does not mean liberal socialists necessarily wish to go psycho like Hitler did. Hitler was a freaking psycho path. He was not blue eyed and blond haired and I believe ironically he was half Jew. I have heard hate speech both from extreme right wing and extreme left wing which is why they are both the same coin opposite side. For every argument they have against each other they are both correct about their accusations toward one another which often are the same arguments directed against each other.

This is completely off the original topic though.


Hitler wasnt jewish at all that was a lie and it offends the Jewish people when they say Hitler was half Jew.

Take a look at this website about Corporations and the Nazis at least humor me I am the Joker after all.

http://www.businesspundit.com/10-global ... the-nazis/


Actually, a DNA test performed on a relative of Hitler's here in the United States revealed the presence of Jewish and North African Haplogroups. The North African ancestry very probably dated back to Roman times, when imperial troops recruited from North Africa retired to military colonies in what's today Austria. That would have been something that would have probably amazed and shocked Hitler. The Jewish ancestry was probably more recent, and was something Hitler apparently knew about - and desperately tried to keep hidden. After Austria was added to the Reich, Hitler had his home town evacuated, and shelled - in particular the hall of records. So no, it's not a lie. As a matter of fact, many Germans in more recent times have discovered that they have some Jewish ancestry. My own maternal Grandmother's family had had Jewish origins going by their surname, though from their own collective memory, they had been nothing but Prussian Lutherans. So, considering this, going by DNA rather than religion or culture, the Holocaust may have been a matter of "murder in the family!"

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10 Oct 2011, 2:07 am

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I need something to back up that it is a fact Hitler was not half Jewish. Not trying to be offensive but hypocrisy to the highest level is always interesting.

As for the companies they were global companies founded in other countries not in Germany itself. The Germans may have used big corporations but that does not mean they would not work to control them in time. Business's that were in Germany itself were under strong control. Socialism is about society (government) owning the business's. What corporation doesn't take advantage of making money even if its unethical. I hate Ford anyways. I do not support big corporations as I believe many our puppeteers of our government. The invincible hand. Their are two evils that I do not wish to see. A government that has complete control over all business or corporations that have complete control over the government. That is when corporations become the government which is the same ends as extreme government control over business. Its basically when the two merge together.


Still they used Corporations America uses Corporations that are in China.

Often suggested sometimes claimed but no established historian buys into what is probably just an urban legend.

There have been rumours that Hitler was one-quarter Jewish and that his paternal grandmother Maria Schicklgruber had become pregnant while working as a servant in a the household of a Graz Jew called Franberger During the 1920s the implications of these rumours along with his known family history were politically explosive especially for the proponent of a racist ideology Opponents tried to prove that Hitler the leader of the anti-Semitic Nazi Party had Jewish or Czech ancestors Although these rumours were never confirmed for Hitler they were reason enough to conceal his origins.

he Hitler family was Roman Catholic.
Hitler's grandfather was not Jewish. The standard version of the story focuses on Hitler's paternal grandfather. Hitler's father's mother is said to have worked as a maid for a Jew and there were rumors that Hitler's father was actually the employer's biological child. No evidence for this has ever been found.
Although there is no evidence that Hitler had a Jewish grandfather, supposedly his grandmother refused to reveal the identity of her child's father to her death. There was a suspicion that it was her Jewish employer, but there is no evidence of this, and Hitler certainly never spoke of it.
Hitler certainly hated Jews, as one can read in his book, 'Mein Kampf'. Most Austrian children were raised with a fear, mistrust and hatred of Jews, going back to medieval times, supported by the Catholic Church, that Hitler was born into. Hitler was filled with hatred towards many groups and people, and was a very angry man, as is obvious if you listen to his speeches.



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10 Oct 2011, 5:54 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Tadzio wrote:
Who are the new Nazis?

"The gaze of the neocons, like that of America's perennially autistic ruling classes.... ....to demonstrate that neither their imagination nor their actions will be constrained by anyone or anything - not even by the rules and norms they believe are their country's gift to the world".
"The Reactionary Mind: Conservatism from Edmund Burke to Sarah Palin" by Corey Robin (2011), page 194.

With "The Grapes of Wrath" being the role-model for today's Joads taking the blame for their own actions resulting in their long vacation trip to peach-picking employment delights, with plenty of opportunities to eat twice as much as they need from America's garbage, adding the laissez-faire Capitalist-Pigs subduing the Social Contract into worthless Binding Arbitration, "Let Them Eat Cake" sounds like a flame retardant.

Tadzio


Excuse me?!?!?!

I happen to be a Conservative and quite frankly if you want to look at Nazism and compare it to people like me, sorry but Nazism more closely resembles the Left wing ideology than the right.

Pushing for limited Government is a total opposite of Nazism, being pro-life (even if the child may have things like Down Syndrome) is a total opposite of Nazism.

What the hell did your school teach in history class anyways?

Conservatives are against eugenics which as you know the Nazis practiced eugenics.

The Tea Party rallies resulted in 0 Tea Party members being arrested because they were peaceful, before the Nazis took power they engaged in violent protests.

occupy wallstreet has resulted in over 700 arrests of protesters nationwide, and have committed acts of violence, which seem to be more in line with the Nazis from a historical standpoint.

Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), a prominent Jewish congressman, said the Jewish vote is a concern for his party.

“I think Jewish voters will be Democratic and be for Obama in 2012, especially if you get a Republican candidate like [Texas] Gov. [Rick] Perry,” he said. “But there’s no question the Jewish community is much more bipartisan than it has been in previous years. There are Jews who are trending toward the Republican Party, some of it because of their misunderstanding of Obama’s policies in the Middle East, and some of it, quite frankly, for economic reasons. They feel they want to protect their wealth, which is why a lot of well-off voters vote for Republicans.”


http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/18 ... for-nov-12

While Henry Waxman claims he's Jewish, something tells me he turned his back on Judaism years ago, either that or he's completely lost his mind.


Beelzebub is of the opinion that your request for excuse be granted for further entry, but I seldom regard Beelzebub as having any firm foundation, so many obstacles may remain.

The only sensible conclusion I can draw from your identifying conceptual opposites as being with the features of their own conceptual inverse is the initial confusion created by reflection.

Pushing for "limited Government" is not an opposite of Nazism. The works of Ayn Rand compared to the self-explained proclamations of Adolf Hitler are in near perfect agreement with requiring the concept of the corporation to subsume the means for the end at all possible opportunities.

The schools I attended taught the value of utilizing libraries, including the Library of Congress of the United States of America, as major sources of intellectual and established knowledges.

Nazis preached and practiced eugenics directly, while Ayn Rand promotes "purifying the breed" by utilizing exposure to assure death to any of the burdensome inferiors, under "survival of the fittest", and both regarded their own spawn as the most frequently fittest, and singularly fit for "exceptions" to any overly firm rule.

The "Tea Party rallies" have characteristics with much in common in the counting of the votes in Florida, namely, the quashed, and seldom seen, videos of the police running from the non-Liberals, instead of protecting the rights of the public against physical assault and violence from the non-Liberals. Representative Herger's praising as a Great American the self-proclaimed "Patriotic Right-Wing Terrorist" gives a foreboding of knowlege of the absence of enforced laws when criminal acts are committed by such "Great Americans" to silence any Liberal dissenter. The Liberal "dissenter" is much more often the charged person for "blood on the jack-boot attempted suicide-by-cop". The Nazis won elections about like Republicans do. Krisrallnacht was also claimed by the Nazis to be totally distinct from Nazi Party Members.

Non-Liberal protesters having a much lower subjection to technicalities of the law than other protesters is evidence opposite to supporting your results of flawed logic, and reveals a major non sequitur.

The Nazis revoked the Jewish vote, and any opposition to any supporting concerns about maintaining the availability of the Jewish vote is more in line with the Nazi Doctrines. Both religious based preferences and disfavors in voting is held to be an anathema to public elections in the USA.

(Your later postings reeking of aversions to "non-profit", "public", and "subsidized" funding of "monuments", taint the opposite Reaganesque ubiquities of the same, as if anything not of such strain requires crucifixion on a Cross of Gold for any non-monetarists' Public Works).

Tadzio

P.S.: Privatization of the "Big Bad" Government to the "Atlas Randian Pure" Corporation allows every individual person to be divided into so many small pieces for divine corporate consumption that “The realistic alternative to a class action is not 17 million individual suits, but zero individual suits, as only a lunatic or a fanatic sues for $30”, and forget about the obvious doctrine "We do not honor federalist principles in their breach." http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-893.pdf

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10 Oct 2011, 7:33 am

the dutch party pvv



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10 Oct 2011, 7:59 am

Now let me see.

Which country is it that has spent the last twenty years or so invading weaker nations?

And why is it that EVERY country that tries to stand up to them INSTANTLY become

"the bad guys".

Land of the free, home of the invaders.



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10 Oct 2011, 8:08 am

Jokingly said neo-Nazi's but more realistically none and, for neo-Nazi's - wannabees.


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10 Oct 2011, 8:21 am

Joker wrote:

Hitler wasnt jewish at all that was a lie and it offends the Jewish people when they say Hitler was half Jew.

Take a look at this website about Corporations and the Nazis at least humor me I am the Joker after all.

http://www.businesspundit.com/10-global ... the-nazis/


Both Hitler and I were ashamed that he was half-Jewish.

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10 Oct 2011, 9:43 am

For purposes of this thread, how are we defining "Nazis"? How are we defining "the new Nazis"? Are we looking for a new movement promoting:

  • A cult of personality revolving around Adolf Hitler?
  • German nationalism?
  • Anti-Semitism and genocide of the Jews?
  • A mythology of origins of the German people from an ancient Aryan warrior race?
  • Promotion of a totalitarian state that is opposed to liberalism and representative democracy?
  • A policy of aggressive national expansion?
  • The use of armed mobs and militias to intimidate political opponents and push for state power?



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10 Oct 2011, 1:43 pm

Tadzio wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Tadzio wrote:
Who are the new Nazis?

"The gaze of the neocons, like that of America's perennially autistic ruling classes.... ....to demonstrate that neither their imagination nor their actions will be constrained by anyone or anything - not even by the rules and norms they believe are their country's gift to the world".
"The Reactionary Mind: Conservatism from Edmund Burke to Sarah Palin" by Corey Robin (2011), page 194.

With "The Grapes of Wrath" being the role-model for today's Joads taking the blame for their own actions resulting in their long vacation trip to peach-picking employment delights, with plenty of opportunities to eat twice as much as they need from America's garbage, adding the laissez-faire Capitalist-Pigs subduing the Social Contract into worthless Binding Arbitration, "Let Them Eat Cake" sounds like a flame retardant.

Tadzio


Excuse me?!?!?!

I happen to be a Conservative and quite frankly if you want to look at Nazism and compare it to people like me, sorry but Nazism more closely resembles the Left wing ideology than the right.

Pushing for limited Government is a total opposite of Nazism, being pro-life (even if the child may have things like Down Syndrome) is a total opposite of Nazism.

What the hell did your school teach in history class anyways?

Conservatives are against eugenics which as you know the Nazis practiced eugenics.

The Tea Party rallies resulted in 0 Tea Party members being arrested because they were peaceful, before the Nazis took power they engaged in violent protests.

occupy wallstreet has resulted in over 700 arrests of protesters nationwide, and have committed acts of violence, which seem to be more in line with the Nazis from a historical standpoint.

Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), a prominent Jewish congressman, said the Jewish vote is a concern for his party.

“I think Jewish voters will be Democratic and be for Obama in 2012, especially if you get a Republican candidate like [Texas] Gov. [Rick] Perry,” he said. “But there’s no question the Jewish community is much more bipartisan than it has been in previous years. There are Jews who are trending toward the Republican Party, some of it because of their misunderstanding of Obama’s policies in the Middle East, and some of it, quite frankly, for economic reasons. They feel they want to protect their wealth, which is why a lot of well-off voters vote for Republicans.”


http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/18 ... for-nov-12

While Henry Waxman claims he's Jewish, something tells me he turned his back on Judaism years ago, either that or he's completely lost his mind.


Beelzebub is of the opinion that your request for excuse be granted for further entry, but I seldom regard Beelzebub as having any firm foundation, so many obstacles may remain.

The only sensible conclusion I can draw from your identifying conceptual opposites as being with the features of their own conceptual inverse is the initial confusion created by reflection.

Pushing for "limited Government" is not an opposite of Nazism. The works of Ayn Rand compared to the self-explained proclamations of Adolf Hitler are in near perfect agreement with requiring the concept of the corporation to subsume the means for the end at all possible opportunities.

The schools I attended taught the value of utilizing libraries, including the Library of Congress of the United States of America, as major sources of intellectual and established knowledges.

Nazis preached and practiced eugenics directly, while Ayn Rand promotes "purifying the breed" by utilizing exposure to assure death to any of the burdensome inferiors, under "survival of the fittest", and both regarded their own spawn as the most frequently fittest, and singularly fit for "exceptions" to any overly firm rule.

The "Tea Party rallies" have characteristics with much in common in the counting of the votes in Florida, namely, the quashed, and seldom seen, videos of the police running from the non-Liberals, instead of protecting the rights of the public against physical assault and violence from the non-Liberals. Representative Herger's praising as a Great American the self-proclaimed "Patriotic Right-Wing Terrorist" gives a foreboding of knowlege of the absence of enforced laws when criminal acts are committed by such "Great Americans" to silence any Liberal dissenter. The Liberal "dissenter" is much more often the charged person for "blood on the jack-boot attempted suicide-by-cop". The Nazis won elections about like Republicans do. Krisrallnacht was also claimed by the Nazis to be totally distinct from Nazi Party Members.

Non-Liberal protesters having a much lower subjection to technicalities of the law than other protesters is evidence opposite to supporting your results of flawed logic, and reveals a major non sequitur.

The Nazis revoked the Jewish vote, and any opposition to any supporting concerns about maintaining the availability of the Jewish vote is more in line with the Nazi Doctrines. Both religious based preferences and disfavors in voting is held to be an anathema to public elections in the USA.

(Your later postings reeking of aversions to "non-profit", "public", and "subsidized" funding of "monuments", taint the opposite Reaganesque ubiquities of the same, as if anything not of such strain requires crucifixion on a Cross of Gold for any non-monetarists' Public Works).

Tadzio

P.S.: Privatization of the "Big Bad" Government to the "Atlas Randian Pure" Corporation allows every individual person to be divided into so many small pieces for divine corporate consumption that “The realistic alternative to a class action is not 17 million individual suits, but zero individual suits, as only a lunatic or a fanatic sues for $30”, and forget about the obvious doctrine "We do not honor federalist principles in their breach." http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-893.pdf

Tadzio


This is like saying that Conservatives support communism because they like reading 1984 and use it to show the evils of Communism. While George Orwell's intent was to show the value and wonder of socialism, the reality is that Conservatives view it to be an example of why socialism is evil.

Ayn Rand's book, shows the evils of totalitarian Governments, Conservatives views her book as a warning about governments trying to get more and more power. That doesn't mean we agree with everything Ayn Rand was supposedly for, far from it.

You're also telling me that religious people, that believe everyone has certain inalienable rights given to them by God (not the State) are somehow similar to the Nazis. Excuse me?!?!?

I believe a person with black skin has the same rights as a person with white skin because they are both HUMAN BEINGS!! !

Comparing people like me to the Nazis is both outrageous and downright dishonest.



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10 Oct 2011, 2:12 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Tadzio wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Tadzio wrote:
Who are the new Nazis?

"The gaze of the neocons, like that of America's perennially autistic ruling classes.... ....to demonstrate that neither their imagination nor their actions will be constrained by anyone or anything - not even by the rules and norms they believe are their country's gift to the world".
"The Reactionary Mind: Conservatism from Edmund Burke to Sarah Palin" by Corey Robin (2011), page 194.

With "The Grapes of Wrath" being the role-model for today's Joads taking the blame for their own actions resulting in their long vacation trip to peach-picking employment delights, with plenty of opportunities to eat twice as much as they need from America's garbage, adding the laissez-faire Capitalist-Pigs subduing the Social Contract into worthless Binding Arbitration, "Let Them Eat Cake" sounds like a flame retardant.

Tadzio


Excuse me?!?!?!

I happen to be a Conservative and quite frankly if you want to look at Nazism and compare it to people like me, sorry but Nazism more closely resembles the Left wing ideology than the right.

Pushing for limited Government is a total opposite of Nazism, being pro-life (even if the child may have things like Down Syndrome) is a total opposite of Nazism.

What the hell did your school teach in history class anyways?

Conservatives are against eugenics which as you know the Nazis practiced eugenics.

The Tea Party rallies resulted in 0 Tea Party members being arrested because they were peaceful, before the Nazis took power they engaged in violent protests.

occupy wallstreet has resulted in over 700 arrests of protesters nationwide, and have committed acts of violence, which seem to be more in line with the Nazis from a historical standpoint.

Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), a prominent Jewish congressman, said the Jewish vote is a concern for his party.

“I think Jewish voters will be Democratic and be for Obama in 2012, especially if you get a Republican candidate like [Texas] Gov. [Rick] Perry,” he said. “But there’s no question the Jewish community is much more bipartisan than it has been in previous years. There are Jews who are trending toward the Republican Party, some of it because of their misunderstanding of Obama’s policies in the Middle East, and some of it, quite frankly, for economic reasons. They feel they want to protect their wealth, which is why a lot of well-off voters vote for Republicans.”


http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/18 ... for-nov-12

While Henry Waxman claims he's Jewish, something tells me he turned his back on Judaism years ago, either that or he's completely lost his mind.


Beelzebub is of the opinion that your request for excuse be granted for further entry, but I seldom regard Beelzebub as having any firm foundation, so many obstacles may remain.

The only sensible conclusion I can draw from your identifying conceptual opposites as being with the features of their own conceptual inverse is the initial confusion created by reflection.

Pushing for "limited Government" is not an opposite of Nazism. The works of Ayn Rand compared to the self-explained proclamations of Adolf Hitler are in near perfect agreement with requiring the concept of the corporation to subsume the means for the end at all possible opportunities.

The schools I attended taught the value of utilizing libraries, including the Library of Congress of the United States of America, as major sources of intellectual and established knowledges.

Nazis preached and practiced eugenics directly, while Ayn Rand promotes "purifying the breed" by utilizing exposure to assure death to any of the burdensome inferiors, under "survival of the fittest", and both regarded their own spawn as the most frequently fittest, and singularly fit for "exceptions" to any overly firm rule.

The "Tea Party rallies" have characteristics with much in common in the counting of the votes in Florida, namely, the quashed, and seldom seen, videos of the police running from the non-Liberals, instead of protecting the rights of the public against physical assault and violence from the non-Liberals. Representative Herger's praising as a Great American the self-proclaimed "Patriotic Right-Wing Terrorist" gives a foreboding of knowlege of the absence of enforced laws when criminal acts are committed by such "Great Americans" to silence any Liberal dissenter. The Liberal "dissenter" is much more often the charged person for "blood on the jack-boot attempted suicide-by-cop". The Nazis won elections about like Republicans do. Krisrallnacht was also claimed by the Nazis to be totally distinct from Nazi Party Members.

Non-Liberal protesters having a much lower subjection to technicalities of the law than other protesters is evidence opposite to supporting your results of flawed logic, and reveals a major non sequitur.

The Nazis revoked the Jewish vote, and any opposition to any supporting concerns about maintaining the availability of the Jewish vote is more in line with the Nazi Doctrines. Both religious based preferences and disfavors in voting is held to be an anathema to public elections in the USA.

(Your later postings reeking of aversions to "non-profit", "public", and "subsidized" funding of "monuments", taint the opposite Reaganesque ubiquities of the same, as if anything not of such strain requires crucifixion on a Cross of Gold for any non-monetarists' Public Works).

Tadzio

P.S.: Privatization of the "Big Bad" Government to the "Atlas Randian Pure" Corporation allows every individual person to be divided into so many small pieces for divine corporate consumption that “The realistic alternative to a class action is not 17 million individual suits, but zero individual suits, as only a lunatic or a fanatic sues for $30”, and forget about the obvious doctrine "We do not honor federalist principles in their breach." http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-893.pdf

Tadzio


This is like saying that Conservatives support communism because they like reading 1984 and use it to show the evils of Communism. While George Orwell's intent was to show the value and wonder of socialism, the reality is that Conservatives view it to be an example of why socialism is evil.

Ayn Rand's book, shows the evils of totalitarian Governments, Conservatives views her book as a warning about governments trying to get more and more power. That doesn't mean we agree with everything Ayn Rand was supposedly for, far from it.

You're also telling me that religious people, that believe everyone has certain inalienable rights given to them by God (not the State) are somehow similar to the Nazis. Excuse me?!?!?

I believe a person with black skin has the same rights as a person with white skin because they are both HUMAN BEINGS!! !

Comparing people like me to the Nazis is both outrageous and downright dishonest.


While George Orwell was a socialist, he was hardly showing the wonders of communism in his books. What he wrote was a warning about the dangers of totalitarianism, which could come from either the left or right.
And despite what you say, Ayn Rand was a hateful old hag who believed selfishness was a virtue, and who held Christ and his message of selflessness and universal love in contempt. And anyone who uses her as inspiration of how a government should work, or how a life should be lived - whether they're the Tea Party, of Paul Ryan - are the enemies of Christian civilization!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer