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16 Oct 2011, 7:27 pm

For crying out loud, not again...

a heartbeat doesn't mean squat. The heart is just a pump for blood, and some version of it exists in every organism with tissues too thick to respirate and dispose of wastes by diffusion. That's all it is, and all it means.

A zef is not medically a child. It becomes something quite close to one in the 3rd trimester, but it's not a person until it's born and is no longer on maternal life support.

@ Joker, you'd be a lot easier to read if you had the courtesey to use normal punctuation. As it is, your run-ons are so annoying that I generally stop reading after a line or two.



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16 Oct 2011, 7:41 pm

I think we need to settle this through a Rap Battle. I think Yu-Gi-Oh duels are lame, and I do not think some people are old enough to have Pokemon from Pokemon: Red and Pokemon: Blue (because everything else is Pose-a-mon). I think two rappers each from the pro-life and pro-abortion (more gangsta name than pro-choice obviously) side should settle this once for all, and by that I mean two months.


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16 Oct 2011, 7:44 pm

LKL wrote:
For crying out loud, not again...

a heartbeat doesn't mean squat. The heart is just a pump for blood, and some version of it exists in every organism with tissues too thick to respirate and dispose of wastes by diffusion. That's all it is, and all it means.

A zef is not medically a child. It becomes something quite close to one in the 3rd trimester, but it's not a person until it's born and is no longer on maternal life support.

@ Joker, you'd be a lot easier to read if you had the courtesey to use normal punctuation. As it is, your run-ons are so annoying that I generally stop reading after a line or two.


Brain activity starts at day 47 (well at least is detectable then), which is far earlier than the 3rd trimester.

The argument about when consciousness begins is rather ridiculous one for you to make cause you can't really test for consciousness when the subject is in the equivalent of a sensory deprivation chamber.



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16 Oct 2011, 7:47 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
LKL wrote:
For crying out loud, not again...

a heartbeat doesn't mean squat. The heart is just a pump for blood, and some version of it exists in every organism with tissues too thick to respirate and dispose of wastes by diffusion. That's all it is, and all it means.

A zef is not medically a child. It becomes something quite close to one in the 3rd trimester, but it's not a person until it's born and is no longer on maternal life support.

@ Joker, you'd be a lot easier to read if you had the courtesey to use normal punctuation. As it is, your run-ons are so annoying that I generally stop reading after a line or two.


Brain activity starts at day 47 (well at least is detectable then), which is far earlier than the 3rd trimester.

The argument about when consciousness begins is rather ridiculous one for you to make cause you can't really test for consciousness when the subject is in the equivalent of a sensory deprivation chamber.


read up on your understanding of neurology and the nervous system,

brain activity is not unique to humans and as such not the reason we afford them special rigths,
conscoiusness is.


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16 Oct 2011, 7:57 pm

Oodain wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
LKL wrote:
For crying out loud, not again...

a heartbeat doesn't mean squat. The heart is just a pump for blood, and some version of it exists in every organism with tissues too thick to respirate and dispose of wastes by diffusion. That's all it is, and all it means.

A zef is not medically a child. It becomes something quite close to one in the 3rd trimester, but it's not a person until it's born and is no longer on maternal life support.

@ Joker, you'd be a lot easier to read if you had the courtesey to use normal punctuation. As it is, your run-ons are so annoying that I generally stop reading after a line or two.


Brain activity starts at day 47 (well at least is detectable then), which is far earlier than the 3rd trimester.

The argument about when consciousness begins is rather ridiculous one for you to make cause you can't really test for consciousness when the subject is in the equivalent of a sensory deprivation chamber.


read up on your understanding of neurology and the nervous system,

brain activity is not unique to humans and as such not the reason we afford them special rigths,
conscoiusness is.


It isn't a valid experiment when one of the two subjects has been exposed to almost 0 sensory input their entire life and compare their brain's activity to someone whom has had sensory stimuli for nearly their entire life and say because subject 1's brain activity is different, they aren't conscious... It is a rigged experiment designed to achieve a flawed result.



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16 Oct 2011, 8:37 pm

HerrGrimm wrote:
I think we need to settle this through a Rap Battle. I think Yu-Gi-Oh duels are lame, and I do not think some people are old enough to have Pokemon from Pokemon: Red and Pokemon: Blue (because everything else is Pose-a-mon). I think two rappers each from the pro-life and pro-abortion (more gangsta name than pro-choice obviously) side should settle this once for all, and by that I mean two months.


The Fetus Fetishists should be represented by the devoutly Christian rap duo known as Insane Clown Posse.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oc ... stians-god


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16 Oct 2011, 8:43 pm

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The Fetus Fetishists should be represented by the devoutly Christian rap duo known as Insane Clown Posse.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oc ... ans-godthe


That link is dead like their career.

I had some good rapper names for a couple people but they might be too offensive. I also think we can get Raptor, John_Browning, and AceOfSpades to give them the guns just in case something breaks out. I think this is a rather good idea.


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16 Oct 2011, 8:51 pm

HerrGrimm wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
The Fetus Fetishists should be represented by the devoutly Christian rap duo known as Insane Clown Posse.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oc ... ans-godthe


That link is dead like their career.


The dynamics of the interwebs are pretty BSy, I mean I just copied that link 5 minutes ago. But this one might be better

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oc ... stians-god

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I had some good rapper names for a couple people but they might be too offensive. I also think we can get Raptor, John_Browning, and AceOfSpades to give them the guns just in case something breaks out. I think this is a rather good idea.


But none of those rappers will embody the historical development of Christianity anywhere near as well as ICP!

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010 ... _chris.php


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16 Oct 2011, 9:00 pm

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But none of those rappers will embody the historical development of Christianity anywhere near as well as ICP!

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010 ... _chris.php


I believe we should get rappers that know the inside-out of PPR. Sure, ICP might be better overall, but I think it is a sell-out to outsource this. Besides, you are pro-abortion, right? You should focus on who you want to represent you, not the other side.

EDIT: You might think the reference to guns and such is offensive or something like that, but it is justified. Back around the time of NWA, there actually was a reason behind the music since the LAPD was notoriously corrupt. Real rap died around 2004 and is now full of posers who believe the garbage I am saying about it. So this is mockery of how disgraced rap is today.


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16 Oct 2011, 9:01 pm

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LKL wrote:
For crying out loud, not again...

a heartbeat doesn't mean squat. The heart is just a pump for blood, and some version of it exists in every organism with tissues too thick to respirate and dispose of wastes by diffusion. That's all it is, and all it means.

A zef is not medically a child. It becomes something quite close to one in the 3rd trimester, but it's not a person until it's born and is no longer on maternal life support.

@ Joker, you'd be a lot easier to read if you had the courtesey to use normal punctuation. As it is, your run-ons are so annoying that I generally stop reading after a line or two.


Brain activity starts at day 47 (well at least is detectable then), which is far earlier than the 3rd trimester.

The argument about when consciousness begins is rather ridiculous one for you to make cause you can't really test for consciousness when the subject is in the equivalent of a sensory deprivation chamber.

Neural activity != brain activity, dear. Annelids show more organized neural activity than what one sees in a 1st trimester zef.



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16 Oct 2011, 9:04 pm

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THIS IS WHAT PRO CHOICE PEOPLE SUPPORT.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20 ... ortion.htm


Wow. The people who made that site are f*cking morons. Putting an exclamation mark after "the horrors of abortion" is sorta the type of thing 11 year old girls on instant messanger do. It shows how tasteless and infantile the Fetus Fetishists are, which I really shouldn't be surprised at by now.


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16 Oct 2011, 9:16 pm

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THIS IS WHAT PRO CHOICE PEOPLE SUPPORT.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20 ... ortion.htm


Wow. The people who made that site are f*cking morons. Putting an exclamation mark after "the horrors of abortion" is sorta the type of thing 11 year old girls on instant messanger do. It shows how tasteless and infantile the Fetus Fetishists are, which I really shouldn't be surprised at by now.


Its still what you support lad. :wink:



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16 Oct 2011, 9:22 pm

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Master_Pedant wrote:
Joker wrote:
THIS IS WHAT PRO CHOICE PEOPLE SUPPORT.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20 ... ortion.htm


Wow. The people who made that site are f*cking morons. Putting an exclamation mark after "the horrors of abortion" is sorta the type of thing 11 year old girls on instant messanger do. It shows how tasteless and infantile the Fetus Fetishists are, which I really shouldn't be surprised at by now.


Its still what you support lad. :wink:


Prove it. I'll wait.

EDIT: Wait, I have a better idea. Give me a couple minutes, OK?


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16 Oct 2011, 9:26 pm

HerrGrimm wrote:
Joker wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
Joker wrote:
THIS IS WHAT PRO CHOICE PEOPLE SUPPORT.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20 ... ortion.htm


Wow. The people who made that site are f*cking morons. Putting an exclamation mark after "the horrors of abortion" is sorta the type of thing 11 year old girls on instant messanger do. It shows how tasteless and infantile the Fetus Fetishists are, which I really shouldn't be surprised at by now.


Its still what you support lad. :wink:


Prove it. I'll wait.

EDIT: Wait, I have a better idea. Give me a couple minutes, OK?


If you support abortion the photos should not offend you :wink:



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16 Oct 2011, 9:39 pm

Joker wrote:
HerrGrimm wrote:
Joker wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
Joker wrote:
THIS IS WHAT PRO CHOICE PEOPLE SUPPORT.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20 ... ortion.htm


Wow. The people who made that site are f*cking morons. Putting an exclamation mark after "the horrors of abortion" is sorta the type of thing 11 year old girls on instant messanger do. It shows how tasteless and infantile the Fetus Fetishists are, which I really shouldn't be surprised at by now.


Its still what you support lad. :wink:


Prove it. I'll wait.

EDIT: Wait, I have a better idea. Give me a couple minutes, OK?


If you support abortion the photos should not offend you :wink:


Congratulations, you just got a Grimmy for Weakest Argument of PPR As Of October 16, 2011. I expect to give you a 150-word speech about what this means to you and who you want to thank.

I forgot to ask before I went away: An abortion should happen under no circumstances, right? Including rape?


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16 Oct 2011, 9:43 pm

Joker wrote:
HerrGrimm wrote:
Joker wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
Joker wrote:
THIS IS WHAT PRO CHOICE PEOPLE SUPPORT.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20 ... ortion.htm


Wow. The people who made that site are f*cking morons. Putting an exclamation mark after "the horrors of abortion" is sorta the type of thing 11 year old girls on instant messanger do. It shows how tasteless and infantile the Fetus Fetishists are, which I really shouldn't be surprised at by now.


Its still what you support lad. :wink:


Prove it. I'll wait.

EDIT: Wait, I have a better idea. Give me a couple minutes, OK?


If you support abortion the photos should not offend you :wink:


You'll never make it to a proctologist.

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