Why do Fundies have such a HUGE Persecution Complex?
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So then it is similarly impossible for unrepentant bacon-eaters and beard-shavers to get into Heaven. At least they won't be running out of room up there anytime soon.
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So then it is similarly impossible for unrepentant bacon-eaters and beard-shavers to get into Heaven. At least they won't be running out of room up there anytime soon.
Oh yes, right, the whole kosher laws and appearance is so equivalent to moral issues.
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Matthew 5:11-20; Leviticus 18:22-30, 20:13; John 3:16-21.
Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
Okay, this seems like a scripturally valid reason for a Christian to cultivate and maintain a persecution complex.
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
So, no pork chops either?
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
This doesn't say that one must not practise sodomy. Anyone (Sodomite or not) who believes in Jesus will have everlasting life. Jesus never says anything against queers, but he does have a go at rich people. Apparently, it is the rich who have the most difficulty in gaining everlasting life.
Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.
Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:
(For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;)
That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.
For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.
Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God.
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If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
For one thing, this applied only to the Jews. For another, this doesn't say that a sodomite who believes in Jesus cannot have everlasting life. Sodomites were to receive only a temporal punishment: execution. It does not say that they are to be excluded from Heaven.
So then it is similarly impossible for unrepentant bacon-eaters and beard-shavers to get into Heaven. At least they won't be running out of room up there anytime soon.
Oh yes, right, the whole kosher laws and appearance is so equivalent to moral issues.
Do you really keep up with all of the kosher laws?
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I don't get it either, but here it is.
Enjoy!
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Oh, how those terrible sodomites are victimizing those poor, poor fundies by refusing to be marginalized as second class citizens, and by demanding equal protection under the law from physical violence directed at them for their sexual orientation!
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
The problem is that the whole "porkchop" issue is a bit of nonsense.
Mar 7:19 "since it enters not his heart but his stomach, and is expelled?" (Thus he declared all foods clean.)"
The "thus he declared all foods clean" is found as the writing in a number of Bibles. What it means is that the Bible says that after Jesus, it is ok to eat porkchops. Failing to recognize this is failing Biblical literacy 101.
Beards are more complicated, as some pro-beard teachings exist in the early church.
I think 'keet's issue of morality needs to be outlined better for him to make his case.
Mar 7:19 "since it enters not his heart but his stomach, and is expelled?" (Thus he declared all foods clean.)"
The "thus he declared all foods clean" is found as the writing in a number of Bibles. What it means is that the Bible says that after Jesus, it is ok to eat porkchops. Failing to recognize this is failing Biblical literacy 101.
Beards are more complicated, as some pro-beard teachings exist in the early church.
I think 'keet's issue of morality needs to be outlined better for him to make his case.
The problem is that no justification is given for discarding the portions of Levitican law that fundies no longer like, while retaining the ones that support their prejudices. There is that passage discarding the old food laws, but there's plenty else in there that isn't followed either.
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There is a commandment for all Israelites to carry a shovel to buryh their poop. The idea is that when G_D walks in the camp of His people He should not step in Jew Doo. Deut: 22 - 24. So if Christians really want to follow the bible they will carry a shovel to bury their poop. And then of course, and I hate to bring it up, is the matter of circumcising all the male children. That is not negotiable under Levitical law.
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