Is the acceptance of profanity into our language good?

Page 4 of 6 [ 90 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next


Should society embrace profanity?
Yes, they're just words, and a good way to express how you feel 63%  63%  [ 17 ]
No, they are more than just words, they are a form of aggression and make a person sound uneducated 37%  37%  [ 10 ]
Total votes : 27

Asp-Z
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Dec 2009
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,018

16 Jan 2012, 4:56 pm

Swearing can be beneficial as a release, for if a member wants to vent, for example, and to add emphasis and powerful emotion to a post. While I obviously understand that you'd be against this language being used against other members, I think it would be nice if it was allowed in other contexts within the adult section.



hyperlexian
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Jul 2010
Age: 54
Gender: Female
Posts: 22,023
Location: with bucephalus

16 Jan 2012, 5:01 pm

on the OP's question, i think that swears are an important part of communication. they do make a person appear crass and unprofessional, but at the same time they are humorous multipurpose terms. as some swears become common, new ones spring up, or other verboten underground terms. it's all good.


_________________
on a break, so if you need assistance please contact another moderator from this list:
viewtopic.php?t=391105


spongy
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2010
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,055
Location: Patiently waiting for the seventh wave

16 Jan 2012, 5:03 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
Swearing can be beneficial as a release, for if a member wants to vent, for example, and to add emphasis and powerful emotion to a post. While I obviously understand that you'd be against this language being used against other members, I think it would be nice if it was allowed in other contexts within the adult section.

Swearing as means of release is allowed at the haven for example. However I dont see how a picture with a swear word/a personal attack... which is what most members are doing would qualify as such.


To add a powerful emotion to a post not.


As for the adult thing you have to understand that not everyone in wp is in the same way and people that are shocked by the use of swearing in other contexts shouldnt have to avoid the adult section.


_________________
Please take the time to answer this quick survey to help improve the community

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt255139.html


Asp-Z
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Dec 2009
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,018

16 Jan 2012, 5:07 pm

Quote:
not everyone in wp is in the same way and people that are shocked by the use of swearing in other contexts shouldnt have to avoid the adult section.


Is anyone actually shocked by swearing? I agree with Stephen Fry's view on that matter: "I haven't met anybody who's truly shocked at swearing, really, they're only shocked on behalf of other people. Well, you know, that's preposterous..."

Quote:
To add a powerful emotion to a post not.


What's that mean?



abacacus
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Apr 2007
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,380

16 Jan 2012, 5:08 pm

spongy wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Swearing can be beneficial as a release, for if a member wants to vent, for example, and to add emphasis and powerful emotion to a post. While I obviously understand that you'd be against this language being used against other members, I think it would be nice if it was allowed in other contexts within the adult section.

Swearing as means of release is allowed at the haven for example. However I dont see how a picture with a swear word/a personal attack... which is what most members are doing would qualify as such.


To add a powerful emotion to a post not.


As for the adult thing you have to understand that not everyone in wp is in the same way and people that are shocked by the use of swearing in other contexts shouldnt have to avoid the adult section.


Look at it this way: if you can see no benefit to swearing where is the benefit in censorship? Where do you draw the line? Do we have a right not to be offended on this website?



spongy
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2010
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,055
Location: Patiently waiting for the seventh wave

16 Jan 2012, 5:13 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
Quote:
not everyone in wp is in the same way and people that are shocked by the use of swearing in other contexts shouldnt have to avoid the adult section.


Is anyone actually shocked by swearing? I agree with Stephen Fry's view on that matter: "I haven't met anybody who's truly shocked at swearing, really, they're only shocked on behalf of other people. Well, you know, that's preposterous..."

Quote:
To add a powerful emotion to a post not.


What's that mean?

Yes Ive come across several members that were shocked by this behaviour. all_white comes to mind and Im sure that there are several others I cant remember right now.

You can use swearing as means of release on the haven/haven like posts for example but you cant use it in any other case. You are going to have to find a proper way of adding powerful emotions to a post.


_________________
Please take the time to answer this quick survey to help improve the community

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt255139.html


Asp-Z
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Dec 2009
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,018

16 Jan 2012, 5:16 pm

spongy wrote:
Yes Ive come across several members that were shocked by this behaviour. all_white comes to mind and Im sure that there are several others I cant remember right now.


Hmm, perhaps prior warning is in need then?

Quote:
You can use swearing as means of release on the haven/haven like posts for example but you cant use it in any other case. You are going to have to find a proper way of adding powerful emotions to a post.


How is swearing not "proper"? Because some people happen to dislike it? I still say you take all the people who are genuinely shocked by swearing and show them something called perspective. And also this video:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7gP1xgRDJ4[/youtube]



spongy
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2010
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,055
Location: Patiently waiting for the seventh wave

16 Jan 2012, 5:19 pm

abacacus wrote:
spongy wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Swearing can be beneficial as a release, for if a member wants to vent, for example, and to add emphasis and powerful emotion to a post. While I obviously understand that you'd be against this language being used against other members, I think it would be nice if it was allowed in other contexts within the adult section.

Swearing as means of release is allowed at the haven for example. However I dont see how a picture with a swear word/a personal attack... which is what most members are doing would qualify as such.


To add a powerful emotion to a post not.


As for the adult thing you have to understand that not everyone in wp is in the same way and people that are shocked by the use of swearing in other contexts shouldnt have to avoid the adult section.


Look at it this way: if you can see no benefit to swearing where is the benefit in censorship? Where do you draw the line? Do we have a right not to be offended on this website?

Again I feel the need to point out that you agreed to this rules before signing up.

If you dont like the way things are done here you can go to several other forums where things are done in a different way.

There isnt a right not to be offended but Ive received several complaints about overlooking the swear rule and rules and they have the rules on their side so we have to listen to them.
The minute we start receiving complaints about certain topics that shouldnt be discussed in adult... we´ll start doing a similar thing there because again rules would be on the side of the offended people.


_________________
Please take the time to answer this quick survey to help improve the community

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt255139.html


Asp-Z
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Dec 2009
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,018

16 Jan 2012, 5:22 pm

On the topic of people being offended, more Fry wisdom (censored Fry wisdom, as per the forum rules):

Image



abacacus
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Apr 2007
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,380

16 Jan 2012, 5:26 pm

Agreeing to the rules does not mean I won't do my best to fight them when they are quite frankly silly :lol:

I actually maintain residence on several websites that are uncensored, I tend to prefer them over censored forums. But, I have yet to find a community this large of aspies and auties that allows me to talk as I actually do in real life.

If we don't have the right to not be offended where does the rule against cursing come from? Why is it there? The only reason to disallow cursing is so that people don't get offended. And again we run in to the problem of where to draw the line, especially when it's such an arbitrary line.



spongy
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2010
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,055
Location: Patiently waiting for the seventh wave

16 Jan 2012, 5:27 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
spongy wrote:
Yes Ive come across several members that were shocked by this behaviour. all_white comes to mind and Im sure that there are several others I cant remember right now.


Hmm, perhaps prior warning is in need then?

Quote:
You can use swearing as means of release on the haven/haven like posts for example but you cant use it in any other case. You are going to have to find a proper way of adding powerful emotions to a post.


How is swearing not "proper"? Because some people happen to dislike it? I still say you take all the people who are genuinely shocked by swearing and show them something called perspective. And also this video:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7gP1xgRDJ4[/youtube]

We are sending reminders to members that are posting swear words and I can assure you that we´ll start sending warnings soon if said members refuse to listen to the reminders

Swearing is not a proper way of expressing yourself here because you agreed to avoid using it before signing up. This works the same way that carrying a gun isnt an acceptable way of defending yourself in countries where carrying them is illegal and it will most likely get you into trouble...

Im sure you are familiar with several websites that have a different policy on this issue and I dont understand why you dont start posting there. As hyperlexian stated recently we provide a service that may not be the best for everyone and you are more than free to look around for a website that allows your need for swearing.


_________________
Please take the time to answer this quick survey to help improve the community

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt255139.html


Asp-Z
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Dec 2009
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,018

16 Jan 2012, 5:35 pm

So I see you're deciding to side with the complainers. A real shame. You're like the BBC :P



spongy
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2010
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,055
Location: Patiently waiting for the seventh wave

16 Jan 2012, 5:35 pm

abacacus wrote:
Agreeing to the rules does not mean I won't do my best to fight them when they are quite frankly silly :lol:

I actually maintain residence on several websites that are uncensored, I tend to prefer them over censored forums. But, I have yet to find a community this large of aspies and auties that allows me to talk as I actually do in real life.

If we don't have the right to not be offended where does the rule against cursing come from? Why is it there? The only reason to disallow cursing is so that people don't get offended. And again we run in to the problem of where to draw the line, especially when it's such an arbitrary line.

Signing up to a website when you dont agree to their rules instead of looking for one where you are comfortable with their rules when theres plenty to choose from seems even sillier but thats probably just my opinion.

Have a look at intensitysquared if you are interested on uncensored talk for those on the spectrum.

I dont know where the rule about cursing comes from,you´ll have to ask that to alex

We try to allow a little bit of cursing but the thing is members keep pushing the limits... so it has gone out of hand and we are making a stand. We are unsure wether this is going to be a temporary thing or not.

It was nice talking to you and asp-z but its 23:36 pm here and I have classes at 8:30 so I need to get some sleep.


_________________
Please take the time to answer this quick survey to help improve the community

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt255139.html


abacacus
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Apr 2007
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,380

16 Jan 2012, 5:42 pm

spongy wrote:
abacacus wrote:
Agreeing to the rules does not mean I won't do my best to fight them when they are quite frankly silly :lol:

I actually maintain residence on several websites that are uncensored, I tend to prefer them over censored forums. But, I have yet to find a community this large of aspies and auties that allows me to talk as I actually do in real life.

If we don't have the right to not be offended where does the rule against cursing come from? Why is it there? The only reason to disallow cursing is so that people don't get offended. And again we run in to the problem of where to draw the line, especially when it's such an arbitrary line.

Signing up to a website when you dont agree to their rules instead of looking for one where you are comfortable with their rules when theres plenty to choose from seems even sillier but thats probably just my opinion.

Have a look at intensitysquared if you are interested on uncensored talk for those on the spectrum.

I dont know where the rule about cursing comes from,you´ll have to ask that to alex

We try to allow a little bit of cursing but the thing is members keep pushing the limits... so it has gone out of hand and we are making a stand. We are unsure wether this is going to be a temporary thing or not.

It was nice talking to you and asp-z but its 23:36 pm here and I have classes at 8:30 so I need to get some sleep.


I did agree to the rules, otherwise I wouldn't be here. However, I will try to change them to suit my personal opinions when I have the chance. I am only human after all.

I'll check out that forum tonight, see if it suits me any. Thanks for the recommendation.

Have a good night and enjoy your day on the morrow, it's been nice speaking to you as well.



pandabear
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Aug 2007
Age: 67
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,402

16 Jan 2012, 7:57 pm

According to our beloved First Amendment

Quote:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


The Supreme Court is going to be re-examining the laws concerning naughty words.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... he-f-word/

One of the First Amendment's major heroes is Larry Flynt.

http://www.thelangreport.com/solvers-an ... amendment/



artrat
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Nov 2011
Age: 41
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,269
Location: The Butthole of the American Empire

16 Jan 2012, 8:51 pm

I was raised by parents that don't mind swearing. This made life very hard when my school suspended me for swearing.
What's offensive to some is perfectly fine for others. It is society that condemns these words.

It can not physically harm anyone and is not always used as a f**king insult. The F word made the word insult sound more dramatic. :idea:
Thats why people swear.

For moderators to allow certain letters in swear words but not allow the actual word is stupid.
Swear words are very important to human language. S**t! I use them all the time and they help express my emotions using words.


_________________
?During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" ~George Orwell

"I belive in God, only I spell it Nature."
~ Frank Llyod Wright