What has Massachusetts given America?

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Don't know, either, huh?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Kraichgauer wrote:

They key word here is the state’s dime and limiting is not the same as denying. You have people that will clutter up the ER over any piddle little thing and use up resources that need to be on hand for real emergencies.



It’s better than no emergency room visit. You allow comprehensive healthcare as some kind of “right” and see how it gets overloaded and abused. The quality of care will suffer and the pharmaceutical companies will still make a killing.



There are more issues for a politician to be graded on than healthcare.

And yet countries with universal healthcare seem no worse for ware due to people wanting to be seen for "any piddle thing."
And while I'll question if there are many other issues more important than healthcare, but those on par that I'd grade politicians on are voters rights, workers rights, the environment, etc., all of which I'm sure you'll criticize me for bringing up.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

[quote="Kraichgauer"
And while I'll question if there are many other issues more important than healthcare, but those on par that I'd grade politicians on are voters rights, workers rights, the environment, etc., all of which I'm sure you'll criticize me for bringing up.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer[/quote]

You are perfectly sane for bringing up the problems and you are perfectly naive for thinking the government can solve them. It will take a good portion of the people acting rightly to solve them. The people in government are liars, cheats, corrupt, dishonest and incompetent. Why do you think they can put things right?

Government is half the problem. It is based on bribery, favoritism and the Crony System. Whenever bribes happen look at two parties: those who offered them and those who took them. What we need is something like what Klaatu proposed in the original -The Day the World Stood Still-. A race of robots like Gort who act strictly according to the Rules and cannot be corrupted and bribed. We need God in a Box. Anyone steps out of line --- Kerpow! Unfortunately such a thing does not exist.

ruveyn

You are perfectly sane for bringing up the problems and you are perfectly naive for thinking the government can solve them. It will take a good portion of the people acting rightly to solve them. The people in government are liars, cheats, corrupt, dishonest and incompetent. Why do you think they can put things right?

Government is half the problem. It is based on bribery, favoritism and the Crony System. Whenever bribes happen look at two parties: those who offered them and those who took them. What we need is something like what Klaatu proposed in the original -The Day the World Stood Still-. A race of robots like Gort who act strictly according to the Rules and cannot be corrupted and bribed. We need God in a Box. Anyone steps out of line --- Kerpow! Unfortunately such a thing does not exist.

ruveyn[/quote]

I am all for Gort threatening us into being honest and peaceful.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Big Fail. Shame on God. He ran out of Floods.

ruveyn

Which is why one passes a constitutional amendment to end (strong) corporate personhood and amends the constitution so as to declare that money is not speech.

'Tis a consumation devoutly to be hope'ed for.

ruveyn

http://news.yahoo.com/arkansas-democrat ... 35575.html

Nope. Only conservatives are capable of being this mean.

Thankfully, most Republicans aren't this sick.
But I wouldn't put it past a lot of Republicans to say that the Democrat had done this to his own cat.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

You are mischaracterizing the problem. In the United States you have two contributing factors to misuse of emergency rooms: uninsured individuals, a lack of physicians practicing in family medicine (coupled with a failure to extend therapeutic capacity to nurse practitioners).

For some people, the emergency room is the only place that they can go for medical care free at the point of delivery. Adding universal medical insurance actually takes this pressure away--because these people can now see a doctor in a clinic, rather than taking up valuable ER resources.

For others, they have no family physician, and the emergency room is the only place that they can go for primary care of any kind. This is especially true of small communities where there is insufficient population to support the development of walk-in clinics.

The extension of many family medicine responsibilities to nurses would provide a welcome buffer between the shrinking number of family physicians and the growing need for primary medical care.



My medical view is that your first statement is not necessarily correct. ERs are not equipped to provide meaningful primary care of non-emergency conditions. If you are having a heart attack, there is nowhere better to be. If you have the flu, it is the worst possible place to be--and you would likely be better off not being seen by a doctor at all than sitting in a waiting room for a couple of hours, exposed to every other airborne pathogen being brought in by other patients (and exposing them to yours, too).



You are absolutely correct. But that does not exempt politicians from being graded on healthcare.

All the laws you write cannot help if they are not enforced or if they are corrupted by court decisions.

ruveyn