Psychics in my mom's side of the family.
Hi justalouise,
I blame my strong sensations of deja vu loaded predictions on temporal lobe epilepsy, while some supposedly extremely religious people told me I was gifted by the gods, or a bodily manifestation of a god, but then tried to kill me for being an uncooperative, or the wrong, god.
Neurological explanations of sensations of predictions are verbosely addressed at:
http://www.shaktitechnology.com/Video_lectures.htm
with difficult to shuffle through references at the home-site of shaktitechnology-dot-com.
And, if I remember correctly, the video lecture "Putting Neurotheology into practice" had the most parts more closely matching my experiences.
The controversial Dr. M.A. Persinger is most frequently in neurological journals involving the core projects and theories. I haven't played with a "God Helmet" yet, but it gave a famous atheist a reportedly unpleasant experience. Critics are from all directions, from atheists claiming nonsense and a promotion of religion, to the very religious claiming everything is a promotion of hard-core atheism.
Tadzio
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How mature of the ASD sceptics to go into a thread about psychic ability, and totally derail everyone who has not been a sceptic by stating that it has not been proven, that it is rubish, and anyone who has come into it has a psychological reason. Tell me guys, do you feel big? Does it make you feel oh so smart to make others out to be idiots? Yes you have looked into this subject so that you can again prove your intelectual superiority, that you just have to be right.
Well my mother's side of the family has a supossed history. That was the question wasn't it? Not how much you have read about it being dissproved, and how much of an ignorant jack ass you can be because you think of the other side as being ignorant. Now don't try to hang me because of how wrong you think I am, I will look at all your facts as a vallid argument, try not to completly discredit my own experience.
I am quite sure that I do experience some level of it, I feel energy about things, but I just can not interpret it, sceptics are thinking that is just a lame excuse, I think sometimes perhaps it is, but I am sure that is not the whole picture. I can't read minds, that seems a bit silly for me, but I do kind of get a sort of empathic feeling from people, I tend to be able to know people's nature, but pointing it out is not something I really do. Just because I get an instant feeling someone is untrustworthy I don't let that get in the way. I think I was kind of messed up by seeing a particuly aggressive Shadow person when I was 13, I only recently found out my mother also got the negative feeling from the same place I saw it. I can insure you that Shadow Person was incredibly real, and my experience of red eyes and sense of terror matched too well with other sightings afterwards to just be random.
I also tend to have, I don't know if it is spatial awareness or possibly something similar, can't be tested at all because it is way too chaotic conciously to really have accuracy, the only time it seems to have been dependable is while I have been sick. When I have been at the shops while sick, I know where other people and things are, I could basicly walk with my eyes closed and know exaclty what to do to not walk into things or other people, and I knew exactly the direction to walk to other people I was shopping with.
I don't care if you don't belive me, but my thought on it is that there is just too much trafic of energy for it to be entirely reliable, it is like there are way too many odours constantly wafting in the air that it is really easy to mistake things, making an entirely sterile enviroment is pretty impossible, there are always echoes that interfere. Perhaps in the future it will be usefulll. For the record I do get quite a bit of deja vu, though I do not really belive it, I think that it is likely something like registering a new event in my brain too close, or over an older memory that I mistake for thinking it hapened before.
I used to have some pretty interesting experiences, there was a period that I was able to predict the side that a coin would land on, worked %100 of the time, but I stopped doing it because I was afraid it would stop working, and no one seemed to care, it did stop working as after a period it returned to usual percentage. I have had other times where I sudenly knew to do something, such as being in an online shooter and knowing the exact side an attack would come from.
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or people cant stand to see others lie not only to others but themselves.
as for the limits of human perception (ie how insanely inaccurate it is and how much wants and emotions play into it)
there are plenty of evidence to suggest that we as humans need a third party to verify our theories, supernatural power is no exception.
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there are plenty of evidence to suggest that we as humans need a third party to verify our theories, supernatural power is no exception.
I remember seeing on a documentry that what the picture you actually see at any given moment is not necesary the truth, the human eye can only disern so much detail that a lot of the holes are filled in by the brain putting in what it thinks is there. It can take a few moments to analyse and have confirmation,
It is also my theory that the area that is claimed to be a sixth sense can be easilly effected by various perceptions of reality and other emotional states. This is why people would have claimed in the past to many mythical creatures in the past because it is based on their perception of reality, I am not saying that magical creatures were created because people belived they were real, but it appeared as such from their point of view. Anyone who can try to "perciec" a a "sixth sense" case in a calculated way will fail, as it is just not logical under current logic. Logic of the universe can very easilly be limited without new concepts, at one point no one could prove the Earth was round, that we circled the sun, that stars are also suns, that people of different gender and race could be equel, all you can do is keep an open mind to new concepts.
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Oh, really?
"I am the LORD your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of slavery. You shall have no other gods in My presence."
"Do not make an image or any likeness of what is in the heavens above."
"Do not swear falsely by the name of the LORD."
"Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy."
But these last six are very relevant and are the basis of all society, even amongst some animals.
"Honor your father and your mother."
"Do not murder"
"Do not commit adultery."
"Do not steal."
"Do not bear false witness against your neighbor."
"Do not covet your neighbor's wife."
Hammurabi was the first to codify secular law in a written form. The Bible verses you quoted came later.
Besides, the "Ten Commandments" were delivered by Moses to the People of Israel, and not to the gentiles. Therefore, the "Ten Commandments" have no authority over gentiles - only Jews.
I am a theist, this much is true. I am not angry with God, but only with those who pretend to speak for Him, and who keep telling the same old lies in His name.
Besides, the "Ten Commandments" were delivered by Moses to the People of Israel, and not to the gentiles. Therefore, the "Ten Commandments" have no authority over gentiles - only Jews.
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That is correct. God imposed the Noachic laws on Noah and his descendants. This was before there were any Jews (although Shem is the ancestor of Abraham, who is the first Jew). So the human race is only bound by the 7 laws of Noah. They form a subset of the Big Ten given to Israel which in turn is a subset of the entire 613 commandments given to Israel.
ruveyn
For some reason I thought you were religious?
I am Jewish, not religious. I keep the Commandments or most of them. And what does being religious have to with psychic nonsense?
ruveyn
You believe in one completely unprovable idea and yet shoot down another without even thinking about it.
Quite hypocritical, don't you think?
Although I am guilty of it as well
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For some reason I thought you were religious?
I am Jewish, not religious. I keep the Commandments or most of them. And what does being religious have to with psychic nonsense?
ruveyn
You believe in one completely unprovable idea and yet shoot down another without even thinking about it.
Keeping commandments is not the same as asserting weird and wonderful processes totally unnatural actually occur. I keep the commandments because it is practical to so and it leads to a more orderly society.
There is nothing wrong with respecting life and property.
ruveyn
For some reason I thought you were religious?
I am Jewish, not religious. I keep the Commandments or most of them. And what does being religious have to with psychic nonsense?
ruveyn
You believe in one completely unprovable idea and yet shoot down another without even thinking about it.
Keeping commandments is not the same as asserting weird and wonderful processes totally unnatural actually occur. I keep the commandments because it is practical to so and it leads to a more orderly society.
There is nothing wrong with respecting life and property.
ruveyn
Why bother with following commandments if they're law anyway, which most of the ones that matter are?
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Oh, really?
"I am the LORD your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of slavery. You shall have no other gods in My presence."
"Do not make an image or any likeness of what is in the heavens above."
"Do not swear falsely by the name of the LORD."
"Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy."
But these last six are very relevant and are the basis of all society, even amongst some animals.
"Honor your father and your mother."
"Do not murder"
"Do not commit adultery."
"Do not steal."
"Do not bear false witness against your neighbor."
"Do not covet your neighbor's wife."
Hammurabi was the first to codify secular law in a written form. The Bible verses you quoted came later.
Besides, the "Ten Commandments" were delivered by Moses to the People of Israel, and not to the gentiles. Therefore, the "Ten Commandments" have no authority over gentiles - only Jews.
I am a theist, this much is true. I am not angry with God, but only with those who pretend to speak for Him, and who keep telling the same old lies in His name.
Hi Fnord,
Believe it or not, other individuals read different books than you do, and some people even interpret the same books, that you might share in common, in different interpretations.
Matthew 5:17 and 5:18 are the most common verse(s) cited to me about the "older" Law and Prophets.
Which bizzare dictionary do you use for the unusual definition of the word "gentiles"? No matter, your sentence construction precludes that concern also.
Tadzio
Oh, really?
"I am the LORD your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of slavery. You shall have no other gods in My presence."
"Do not make an image or any likeness of what is in the heavens above."
"Do not swear falsely by the name of the LORD."
"Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy."
But these last six are very relevant and are the basis of all society, even amongst some animals.
"Honor your father and your mother."
"Do not murder"
"Do not commit adultery."
"Do not steal."
"Do not bear false witness against your neighbor."
"Do not covet your neighbor's wife."
Hammurabi was the first to codify secular law in a written form. The Bible verses you quoted came later.
Besides, the "Ten Commandments" were delivered by Moses to the People of Israel, and not to the gentiles. Therefore, the "Ten Commandments" have no authority over gentiles - only Jews.
I am a theist, this much is true. I am not angry with God, but only with those who pretend to speak for Him, and who keep telling the same old lies in His name.
Pearls...
Not only have I read the Bible, but I have studied in it the original languages, especially during my time at Seminary.
Jesus was speaking to His fellow Jews - the chosen people for whom the Commandments were written - and not to the Gentiles.
Merriam-Webster, of course. Nothing bizarre or unusual about that...
Definition of GENTILE:
1: often capitalized : a person of a non-Jewish nation or of non-Jewish faith; especially : a Christian as distinguished from a Jew
2: heathen, pagan
3: often capitalized : a non-Mormon
Definition #3 is not relevant, since the Bible was written before the CoLDS was formed.
Irrelevant.
Also irrelevant.
It's funny how most of the people with ESP on my mom's side of the family are actually Atheists. They say they think it's some sort of weird evolutionary thing not too many people have, either something left over or something beginning.
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Hmmm...interesting. Shows what you know about Aspies, doesn't it rofl?
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