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26 Jun 2012, 4:20 am

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Truthers believe 9/11 was an inside jobs.
Birthers believe Barack Obama was not born in the USA.
Immortalists believe humans will have the ability to be immortal in the future.



cool, then i'm definitely an immortalist :P


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26 Jun 2012, 8:31 am

people do know that MIT has an actuive department researching brain digitalization, they hope to be able to upload a human mind within 20 years.

so immortalists dont really fit into the category of bs established here, at least if you dont mean biological immortality in the way where you cant even be hurt.

now truthers birthers and all the other ravel littering the gutters of intellectuality are another matter and i think hitchens had the right idea.


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26 Jun 2012, 9:23 am

There is no motive for trutherism's theory sufficient to justify a conspiracy of that magnitude.

Free oil? Iraqis sell the oil just like Saddam. Goes to the same market. And if they wanted to pin it on Iraq they could have done it directly. Access to Afghan minerals? We backburnered the war in Afghanistan from 2003-2008. It was hardly a major national priority even to the men who started the war.



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26 Jun 2012, 11:41 am

simon_says wrote:
There is no motive for trutherism's theory sufficient to justify a conspiracy of that magnitude.

Free oil? Iraqis sell the oil just like Saddam. Goes to the same market. And if they wanted to pin it on Iraq they could have done it directly. Access to Afghan minerals? We backburnered the war in Afghanistan from 2003-2008. It was hardly a major national priority even to the men who started the war.

you're going to love whats coming then.



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26 Jun 2012, 7:31 pm

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I'm a falser, I live for the false .


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



26 Jun 2012, 8:31 pm

puddingmouse wrote:
@Inyanook

Truthers believe 9/11 was an inside jobs.
Birthers believe Barack Obama was not born in the USA.
Immortalists believe humans will have the ability to be immortal in the future.




All 3 types are 100% wrong.


Immortalists lack an understanding of thermodynamics and entropy.



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28 Jun 2012, 2:35 pm

Yah, I think the 911 Commission Report is false and leaves a lot of information out. For starters, building 7 collapsed, and there's no mention of it in there. That's a huge detail to miss, an entire building collapsing into itself. The fact it collapsed directly into its footprint, or at all since it wasn't directly struck, doesn't make sense either. Buildings are more likely to topple over on their sides in an unpredictable way, than not. I find it odd that a plane can't be seen in either of the Pentagon surveillance videos released. In one, u can see a horizontal smoke trail, which makes me think it was a missile.

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paWiZ2Y8fRg[/youtube]

What bugs me most are the bib Laden videos. They all look like fakes, post-2001, with glaring inconsistencies.

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"Bin Laden" in Confession video vs Bid Laden circa late 90's


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Ears wouldn't get less pointy and saggy as you age

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The FBI released some images (first two panes), stating they used high tech imaging to show how bin Laden would look in 2010 in western and middle easter attire, but it turns out it was actually a photoshopped image of Gaspar Llamazares (far right pane), a Spanish politician, who picked up on it and sued the FBI for using his image. I take it the government thinks were stupid lemmings with no visual memory to speak of.

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This doesn't even make chronological sense,

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VHrQrpHjvk[/youtube]
There's something very unnatural about this video in particular. The motions and textures seem too smooth.



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01 Jul 2012, 9:13 am

9/11 was the crime of the century. That the people who carried it out got away with it- that is the most shocking fact. Anyone with any doubts can watch the following youtube video's then decide for yourself what 'Reality' is!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNuebABgJNs[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DuSeuxjiJQ[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4lYkjQ4W5I[/youtube]

Count me in as a 9/11 truther!


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02 Jul 2012, 5:23 pm

Seems like there is a lot of people high-fiving each other on this thread...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ikRc4ER2xY[/youtube]



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02 Jul 2012, 6:25 pm

iBlockhead wrote:
Seems like there is a lot of people high-fiving each other on this thread...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ikRc4ER2xY[/youtube]



For Jones to have allegedly predicted 9/11 by saying there would be another terrorist attack on America is like saying it will rain again within the next year.
I can see where Glenn Beck had stolen his act from.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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02 Jul 2012, 7:01 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
...I can see where Glenn Beck had stolen his act from.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Jones does not like Beck that much:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsmPMOISK64[/youtube]

As for that one report:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwNnkMjAhlI[/youtube]



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02 Jul 2012, 10:22 pm

Shooting the messenger and trying to defame his character accomplishes nothing. What you need to do is to look at the actual evidence, look at the 1,000's of Architects and engineers who have signed a petition for a second independent investigation and ponder the question, 'who should I believe the most, people on the street, the government, or credentialed experts with years of experience designing, building, and safetying steel framed buildings'.

Who should you believe, joe 6 pack on the street or professional degreed experts with decades of experience under their belts- I'll leave that choice up to you. If you don't believe the Architects, engineers, metallurgists, ect. Then how about the pilots for 9/11 truth, will you believe them??

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03 Jul 2012, 8:29 pm

Im not a 9/11 Truther.



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03 Jul 2012, 9:07 pm

mikecartwright wrote:
Im not a 9/11 Truther.


Neither am I.



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03 Jul 2012, 9:52 pm

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mikecartwright wrote:
Im not a 9/11 Truther.


Neither am I.


Nor I - - but I am an admitted Kennedy assassination conspiracy nut!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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03 Jul 2012, 9:55 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Joker wrote:
mikecartwright wrote:
Im not a 9/11 Truther.


Neither am I.


Nor I - - but I am an admitted Kennedy assassination conspiracy nut!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Yes I am that I will admit.