Bloody Sunday!
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Funnily enough, I was in Northern Ireland last week and I got on perfectly well with British and Irish people living there and in the Republic. We (and they) just get on with life as they always did. If I can, you should be able to also.
Come to North Carolina and try to get along with the Irish here it won't happen. We mostly fight about sports mostly football. We have rival hooligan clubs we just fight over sports.
You don't know me or Tequila, but you use an absolute statement that it is impossible for him to get along with people who are Irish because he is British.
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Funnily enough, I was in Northern Ireland last week and I got on perfectly well with British and Irish people living there and in the Republic. We (and they) just get on with life as they always did. If I can, you should be able to also.
Come to North Carolina and try to get along with the Irish here it won't happen. We mostly fight about sports mostly football. We have rival hooligan clubs we just fight over sports.
You don't know me or Tequila, but you use an absolute statement that it is impossible for him to get along with people who are Irish because he is British.
And neither of you know me hows that for a blanket statement what ever the bloody hell that means
I know. It's like saying that blue eyed people find it impossible to get along with green-eyed people.
Irish and British people share the same language, food, much of the same culture, much of the same media and so on. We're very similar. Most Irish people in the Republic don't give a toss about Northern Ireland, they're just Irish. The same applies in England. Most people don't give a toss about Northern Ireland here either.
Joker (ha!), a blanket statement is when you say "all people are X".
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I know. It's like saying that blue eyed people find it impossible to get along with green-eyed people.
Irish and British people share the same language, food, much of the same culture, much of the same media and so on. We're very similar. Most Irish people in the Republic don't give a toss about Northern Ireland, they're just Irish. The same applies in England. Most people don't give a toss about Northern Ireland here either.
Joker (ha!), a blanket statement is when you say "all people are X".
We speak the same language now but historically we spoke the Irish language that is befor the brits came to irealand and similated our culture with theirs. You mention a blue eye person not getting along with a green eye person. When you have such anger towards all muslims and their religion. So care to explain that lad?
No mater how many times I try there is inevitably something that leaves room for the wrong impression to be formed from what I write...
So no, there is absolutely no equivalence on any level I can think of - they're entirely separate issues.
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Earlier you were expecting us to make a moral judgement on this thread yet normally, you would be one of the first to complain if we had.
Earlier still you said this:
Last time I checked "freedom of speech and thought" consisted of allowing the expression of things generally held to be good and wholesome - and a stack more that isn't - so maybe that's something you could do with learning.
If it's Ok for "Westerners" to complain about Islam then it's equally Ok for "an Irishman" to romanticise the IRA - however misguided or distasteful either might appear to others.
This thread is permitted by the rules but perhaps a further explanation will help give you a better understanding of how it works out in PPR:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp4674270.html#4674270
Well - suck it up, princess. That's free speech. He is allowed to hold and express that view if he chooses to.
Discuss it with him or walk away.
I'd also refer to this, again, with special emphasis on this part referring to PPR:
Oh wow, this is funny but I'll try and be constructive.
I am more than capable of reading the rules, if you bother to check the rules for moderating PPR are IDENTICAL to the rules for moderating the Haven.
I thought aspies were supposed to be detail oriented and sticklers for this kind of thing, given the amount of time mods always spend enforcing the rules is it not about time you guys decide on what the moderation policy actually is and then all stick to it?
Is it Tallyman's excellent post, or is the 'forum rules' at the top of each board? The two are radically different.
Seriously, I'm trying to be constructive, I've never known a site with areas for political and religious discussion that is so eager to nanny and jump to censorship, perhaps you need specialist mods for different areas, that is the usual way to deal with these issues.
For the funny part
Please read this thread,
1) Joker, the OP has made his gushing and unequivocal support for the IRA abundantly clear on this thread so he is definitely championing them.
2) That the IRA are terrorists and murderers is beyond doubt, they are on every terrorist watch list in every civiliesd country in the world and claim many atrocities as their own.
3) A moderator admits they have a big problem with the content of this thread and decides to lock it, the same moderator then decides to unlock it.
4) I make this statement: " the mods seem to think championing murderers is a ok on this site"
5) That is a statement referring to Jokers support for the IRA, which is beyond doubt in this thread: Joker -So I feel no shame in supporting the IRA. But it is still fun to debate about at least talk about.
6) You decide to miss quote me and threaten me: " I would strongly advise you to stop insinuating that the moderation team is championing murderers on the basis that we allow a discussion to continue in PPR, because that's sailing very close to being a personal attack."
In your very next post however we get this:
Well - suck it up, princess.
So let me get this straight Cornflake, I make a statement that accurately sums up proceedings and you call it a personal attack (after rewriting it) but when you decide to accuse Tequila of having a 'hissy-fit' and calling him a 'princess' that is not a personal attack?
How about you apologise for your disgraceful behaviour?
Do you actually think Tequila is a princess or did you decide to call him that just to insult him? Where exactly is he a princess of? Please elaborate on how you made this mistake.
Exactly why is that mods decide to throw around personal insults all the time to posters they disagree with while at the same time deciding to bully them by rewriting their words and accusing them of making personal attacks?
Your answer please?
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If you want to try to defend the indefensible, then shame on you.
Mind you, there are people who defend and celebrate Hitler's gassing of Jews, so I don't suppose it's considered that much of a stretch.
Oh so now your taking shots at me for also being German.
I'm not going to play word games with you DC.
Elsewhere, you state that nothing good comes from suppressing freedom of speech and thought and you whine that this is a lesson certain moderators could do with learning, yet now that lesson is applied - in that a controversial view expressed by Joker is allowed to remain here - you complain again and expect some sort of moral judgement to be made on the basis of his view being controversial.
This is not an approach I will take seriously and I have nothing more to add.
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If you want to try to defend the indefensible, then shame on you.
Mind you, there are people who defend and celebrate Hitler's gassing of Jews, so I don't suppose it's considered that much of a stretch.
Oh so now your taking shots at me for also being German.
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If you want to try to defend the indefensible, then shame on you.
Mind you, there are people who defend and celebrate Hitler's gassing of Jews, so I don't suppose it's considered that much of a stretch.
Oh so now your taking shots at me for also being German.
Bringing up Hitler when he knows I am German Irish I find it insulting when anyone brings up Hitler period pleas follow some one else around for now
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If you want to try to defend the indefensible, then shame on you.
Mind you, there are people who defend and celebrate Hitler's gassing of Jews, so I don't suppose it's considered that much of a stretch.
Oh so now your taking shots at me for also being German.
Bringing up Hitler when he knows I am German Irish I find it insulting when anyone brings up Hitler period pleas follow some one else around for now
By the way I haven't even gone through your post history. I post in PPR fairly regularly
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If you want to try to defend the indefensible, then shame on you.
Mind you, there are people who defend and celebrate Hitler's gassing of Jews, so I don't suppose it's considered that much of a stretch.
Oh so now your taking shots at me for also being German.
Bringing up Hitler when he knows I am German Irish I find it insulting when anyone brings up Hitler period pleas follow some one else around for now
By the way I haven't even gone through your post history. I post in PPR fairly regularly
Because Hitler is a stain on German History that's why.
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That's quite an interesting contrast, don't you think?
I don't veiw it as a stain on Irish History. But what hitler did was geneocide what the IRA did was bombing stores and killing inncoent people but not geneocide.
