Sinn Fein wants referendum on Irish unification

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24 Jun 2012, 11:46 am

It is still possible to have a united Ireland. Sure I have my romantic ideas about the IRA which I will not apologize for. But lets say the IRA didn't exist none of you would want a United Ireland.

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25 Jun 2012, 1:32 am

Isn't this the wrong time? First Sinn Fein must save Ireland from austerity and the euro. Then it can think of unification.

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25 Jun 2012, 9:20 am

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The Irish economy is utterly fecked and will continue to be fecked for many years to come.

I agree that reunification shouldn't be at the top of anyone's priority list right now. The Irish Republic needs to sort out its economy first. Remember, though, that a few short years ago Ireland was experiencing the "Celtic Tiger". I don't think it would be miraculous to see Ireland rebound within 2-5 years, especially if the American economy improves. A significant portion of the Irish economy (about 25%, I think) is dependent on tourism.

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25 Jun 2012, 9:51 am

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Isn't this the wrong time? First Sinn Fein must save Ireland from austerity and the euro. Then it can think of unification.

In Northern Ireland Sinn Fein is the second largest party and in Ireland it is the fourth.

This thread is so far removed from reality it is the equivalent of arguing over whether the Green Party in the USA should concentrate on unifying North America by invading Canada to liberate the poor Canadians from European oppression or whether it should concentrate on the deficit spending first.

It doesn't matter what these people say, they have no power.

Look at the election results in Ireland, Sinn Fein has never even been a minority member of a governing coalition, ever.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_ ... of_Ireland

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26 Jun 2012, 9:37 pm

I still continue to support Sinn Fein :wink:

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27 Jun 2012, 9:52 pm

Sinn Fein is well on its way to become the second party of Ireland. It's the leading anti-austerity party and the natural opposition to the government.

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27 Jun 2012, 9:54 pm

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Isn't this the wrong time? First Sinn Fein must save Ireland from austerity and the euro. Then it can think of unification.

Syriza also polled 4% in the 2009 Greek election. They got 27% in June 2012. Sinn Fein occupies a similar place in Ireland that Syriza does in Greece though Sinn Fein does have historical roots and perhaps baggage that Syriza does not have and its leader is seen as a Northern Ireland figure.

Wow, look at this... Gerry Adams as Ireland Prime Minister?

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Gerry Adams as Ireland’s next prime minister may not be as fanciful as many think.

The real prospect of Sinn Fein leading the next Irish government is now apparent.

The latest opinion poll in the Irish Times shows Sinn Fein leaping to 24 per cent support with fellow opposition members Fianna Fail at 17 per cent and independents at 15 per cent.

Gerry Adams is now the most popular party leader after an eight point jump put him ahead of Enda Kenny
That combined total of opposition votes puts them at 56 per cent, well ahead of the governing coalition of Fine Gael and Labor who amass only 42 per cent of the vote.

It is clear that Sinn Fein are having the Labour party for lunch, the Labourites are down to 10 per cent with the vast majority of their voters shifting to Sinn Fein.

Even Fianna Fail, architects of the economic mess, are making a comeback because they are in opposition

It is inevitable in a massive economic downturn that the government parties take the heat. But the Labour Party is especially being decimated.

It is always thus it seems. Minority parties in governments --see Liberal Party in England, are usually the ones who take the brunt of the criticism.

The poll is yet another milestone for Sinn Fein who have commenced an inexorable march towards power in Ireland North and South.

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27 Jun 2012, 10:33 pm

Ireland should be one and united.

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27 Jun 2012, 11:32 pm

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Ireland should be one and united.

And France should become a colony of the UK.

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27 Jun 2012, 11:47 pm

Tequila wrote:

Joker wrote:

Ireland should be one and united.

And France should become a colony of the UK.

France isn't apart of the UK it's a country of it's own.

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28 Jun 2012, 12:01 am

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France isn't apart of the UK it's a country of it's own.

The island of Ireland has never been a unified, united country either. The last time it was united was when it was in the UK.

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28 Jun 2012, 8:54 am

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The island of Ireland has never been a unified, united country either.

Brian Boru would disagree.

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28 Jun 2012, 9:51 am

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Syriza is a left wing POLITICAL party founded in 2004.

Sinn Fein is a SECTARIAN party with historical roots.

It is absurd to make any comparison between them, because Sinn Fein will never shed it's sectarian nature and thus will never attract protestant votes. It doesn't make a difference if you are a left wing catholic or a right wing catholic, Sinn Fein is the catholic party in Northern Ireland and us catholics need to stick together for the cause right?

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28 Jun 2012, 10:01 am

Xenon's article was about Sinn Fein in the Republic, not N. Ireland.
"Prime Minister" is how other countries translate "Taoiseach".

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28 Jun 2012, 10:18 am

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Xenon's article was about Sinn Fein in the Republic, not N. Ireland.
"Prime Minister" is how other countries translate "Taoiseach".

And in terms of uniting Ireland and Northern Ireland, the people of NI may have a little bit of a say in things, as does the UK government who do Sinn Fein think they are, Argentina?

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28 Jun 2012, 10:33 am

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And in terms of uniting Ireland and Northern Ireland, the people of NI may have a little bit of a say in things, as does the UK government

obviously

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will never attract protestant votes

not very important if you're running for Taoiseach

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