Are humans the most intelligent life in the universe?

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Are humans the most intelligent life in the universe?
Probably Yes 19%  19%  [ 10 ]
Probably No 81%  81%  [ 43 ]
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25 Aug 2012, 10:49 am

Something about this question reminds me of John Lennon's response when asked if Ringo was the best drummer in the world - "He's not even the best drummer in The Beatles".

How would intelligence be defined here, and would we recognise it?



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25 Aug 2012, 11:42 am

We do have our opposable thumbs and highly-developed vocal chords, and we know how to use them.

On top of that, the human species possesses the advantage of collective intelligence: especially since the Industrial Revolution, each member of our species performs a specialized task, which contributes to our species producing more and more crap.

To our detriment, we have high levels of anxiety, depression, ennuie, and other psychiatric illnesses of which more feral species seldom suffer, except when confined in a zoo.

After the next world war, though, we will revert to a feral state, and few (if any) of us will survive.

Individual octopi are probably more intelligent than individual humans, but lack our collectivist instinct.

Ants and bees have the collectivist instinct, but lack individual intelligence.

Whales have intelligence and collectivist instincts, but lack our opposable thumbs.



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25 Aug 2012, 12:33 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
After the next world war, though, we will revert to a feral state, and few (if any) of us will survive.

Been watching Mad Max again?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1FPK5-Rm38[/youtube]



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25 Aug 2012, 2:25 pm

Okay. As far as we know, no other species has produced the equivalent of our Tina Turner

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL1l0Fz5RlE&feature=related[/youtube]

Although, whales do sing

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXOo68SDTdk[/youtube]



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25 Aug 2012, 3:59 pm

I read somewhere that mice and dolphins were more intelligent than humans :lol:


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26 Aug 2012, 12:54 pm

Shatbat wrote:
I read somewhere that mice and dolphins were more intelligent than humans :lol:


What is "intelligent"?

Mice, dolphins and humans are reproductively successful species. They live, they survive they thrive on that planet now.

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26 Aug 2012, 1:11 pm

Source: Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy :lol:


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26 Aug 2012, 2:30 pm

This reminds me of the Simpsons episode where the dolphins tried taking over.



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27 Aug 2012, 9:12 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
Okay. As far as we know, no other species has produced the equivalent of our Tina Turner

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL1l0Fz5RlE&feature=related[/youtube]

Although, whales do sing

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXOo68SDTdk[/youtube]


The whale has done a marvelous Carl Sagan impression.

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27 Aug 2012, 10:43 am

Are humans the most intelligent in the universe?

I sure hope not. :oops:



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27 Aug 2012, 11:38 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
Some whale species, and maybe octopi, may be more intelligent than humans.


Only second declension latin nouns take -i in the nominative plural. Not only is octopus not a second declension noun, it is not even Latin--it comes from the Greek, and so the correct classical plural is, "octopodes."

The correct english plural of octopus is octopuses.


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27 Aug 2012, 12:59 pm

visagrunt wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Some whale species, and maybe octopi, may be more intelligent than humans.


Only second declension latin nouns take -i in the nominative plural. Not only is octopus not a second declension noun, it is not even Latin--it comes from the Greek, and so the correct classical plural is, "octopodes."

The correct english plural of octopus is octopuses.


quick do cactus.


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27 Aug 2012, 4:59 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
visagrunt wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Some whale species, and maybe octopi, may be more intelligent than humans.


Only second declension latin nouns take -i in the nominative plural. Not only is octopus not a second declension noun, it is not even Latin--it comes from the Greek, and so the correct classical plural is, "octopodes."

The correct english plural of octopus is octopuses.


quick do cactus.


Cactus is a second declension latin noun, and so takes -i in the nominative plural. Additionally, cactuses is an acceptable english plural


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27 Aug 2012, 6:33 pm

Yes, well, there is no central authority on English grammar. "Octopi" may be based on false association with Latin , but it is in a lot of dictionaries and in common use. Just because it is not from Latin does not mean "octopi" is not a word in English.

"Island" is another word whose spelling is based on an inaccurate association. It really used to be spelled "yland".

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=island



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28 Aug 2012, 11:40 am

Of course there's no central authority.

Persistent use of "island" has normalized its spelling. Persistent homosexuality has normalized this half-Greek, half-Latin (sounds about right) abomination (not the practice, just the word). There is still time to man the barricades against classical solecisms that have not yet been normalized, like "octopi" (sic).

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Chillax is a horrible word...[it] is a combination of chill out and relax. Anyone who combines words like that is a funt.


Charlie Brooker is newly installed in my panetheon. Next to David Mitchell (who is probably okay with chillax--but I will worship at his altar anyway).


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28 Aug 2012, 12:38 pm

I consider it highly unlikely that we are the most intelligent life in the universe.