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04 Sep 2012, 4:37 pm

Here's the answer to the OP's question. It's long, but thorough.........

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/artic ... sh-genius/

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04 Sep 2012, 5:08 pm

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Sure, the Palestinians spontaneously for no good reason, out of the blue got a rat up their arse when zionist militia frogmarched them off their ancestral lands, resettled them and forced them in unarable s**tholes on the coast. Who could have predicted that?

It wasn't out of the blue....Jews had been returning to Palestine since the 1800's, and there was an existing population of Jews in Jerusalem. Most of the land was owned by landowners who resided elsewhere.....Jews came in and purchased mostly uncultivated land and very simply made s**t work. When they turned that crap land around into job creating settlement, Arabs flocked to them. If Zionist frogman marched people off their land, why did Arab population increased 120 percent between 1922 and 1947? Again, because they moved in to the land that Jews made livable.

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The state of Israel is an appartheid system with an inherent hatred of arabs and arab culture. Zionism has nothing to do with protecting Jews and even less to do with theological Jewry. Jews and arabs lived amicably and in peace in that area until 60 years ago. It was established by the west for the purposes of being a watchdog in the middle east region.

The West Bank and Gaza are not sovereign Israel, and are ultimately under the control of the Palestinian Authority or Hamas, or whoever, not Israel. Israel left gaza and the Palestinians burned down all the houses and buildings instead of using the infastructure Jews had created.....there are restrictions, but any restrictions Israel imposes is in the name of national security. Meanwhile, Israel offers its arab citizens more freedom and liberty than any Muslim country ever could or would.

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I would think that when your people are being constantly killed by F-16 bombers, tanks and gung ho soldiers and the empirical experience enfuses them with anti-semetic sentiment because all this is done in the name of Judaism, I can't really say I'm surprised really.

Non of that is done "in the name of Judaism." It's done in the name of "stop blowing up our busses full of kids and regular working folks..... you're so misinformed, and your opinions are dangerous.... they're based on lies......I wish we were talking about football or the best french toast recipe, but our opinions on this particular subject are massively important, and we need to get them right.....

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05 Sep 2012, 5:29 am

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Smart?

When I see them nodding their silly heads at the wailing wall I just can't stop laughing.

Brainwashed from birth jackasses.

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05 Sep 2012, 5:47 am

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Smart?

When I see them nodding their silly heads at the wailing wall I just can't stop laughing.

Brainwashed from birth jackasses.

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Some of those jackasses have invented stuff that keep you alive. Since you think Jews are silly, I insist you return your polio vaccination. The two methods that work were invented by silly Jews. Also give back your GPS device. It is based on a physical theory invented by a silly Jew.

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05 Sep 2012, 10:15 am

Jonah Salk and the GPS guy are obviously ingenious individuals. But they are still individuals. Not every Jew you see wagging their heads back and forth at the wailing wall is going to have above average intelligence, or have the foresight to create something useful or beneficial. I have a sneaking feeling Salk and the GPS guy would agree with me.

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05 Sep 2012, 10:24 am

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It is undeniable that Jews show up in disproportionate numbers in many intellectually based undertakings and professions.

Is it undeniable? Do you happen to have anything to back it up beyond anecdotal evidence fueled by confirmation bias?

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05 Sep 2012, 1:36 pm

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Of course they are exceptional. The point is not that every Jew is a genius. Rather, the point is that among geniuses, Jews are disproportionately represented. If you're going to attack the argument, make sure you are attacking the point that is actually being made, not the point that is easy for you to rebut.

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05 Sep 2012, 1:37 pm

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ruveyn wrote:

It is undeniable that Jews show up in disproportionate numbers in many intellectually based undertakings and professions.

Is it undeniable? Do you happen to have anything to back it up beyond anecdotal evidence fueled by confirmation bias?

17 percent of nobel luariates are Jewish. Jews constitute 1/290 of the Earth's population.

That is disproportionate. If things were proportional than on 1/290 of the scientists and mathematicians should be Jews. If you go by national population Jews who constitute 1.6 percent of the U.S. population occur in greater percentages in science and math. Jews are also disproportionately represented in entertainment.

You might want to look here:

http://lagriffedulion.f2s.com/dialogue.htm

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05 Sep 2012, 1:40 pm

ruveyn wrote:

Vexcalibur wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

It is undeniable that Jews show up in disproportionate numbers in many intellectually based undertakings and professions.

Is it undeniable? Do you happen to have anything to back it up beyond anecdotal evidence fueled by confirmation bias?

But does that mean you have the right to look down your nose at the rest of us?

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05 Sep 2012, 2:07 pm

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But it's also true that black Americans have made the most strides in music. Does that mean that blacks are genetically inclined to be musical? I would personally say no - it's more a matter of culture that has inspired musical genius among black people. Same with the genius of Jews in science and entertainment is more a matter of culture than genetic advantage.

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05 Sep 2012, 2:09 pm

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But does that mean you have the right to look down your nose at the rest of us?

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My respect, love and admiration go to the smart people of the planet.

That is why Isaac Newton, James Clark Maxwell and Albert Einstein are heroes to me. And Einstein is the only Jew in the set.

The brain is mightier than the sword.

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05 Sep 2012, 2:41 pm

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But does that mean you have the right to look down your nose at the rest of us?

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That's all I need to hear (read) friend ruveyn.

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05 Sep 2012, 3:36 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

It is undeniable that Jews show up in disproportionate numbers in many intellectually based undertakings and professions.

Is it undeniable? Do you happen to have anything to back it up beyond anecdotal evidence fueled by confirmation bias?

Just ask if you have anything to back it up without already having an answer to your own question ie confirmation bias. Pretend you're an objective scientist collecting data. Read this:http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/jewish-genius/

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05 Sep 2012, 3:45 pm

I am not an objective scientist collecting data. So, I can use Socratic questions when arguing in the web.

Somehow a web page that finishes saying

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At this point, I take sanctuary in my remaining hypothesis, uniquely parsimonious and happily irrefutable. The Jews are God’s chosen people.

Does not look like the most reliable source ever to me.

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05 Sep 2012, 3:54 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:

I am not an objective scientist collecting data. So, I can use Socratic questions when arguing in the web.

Somehow a web page that finishes saying

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At this point, I take sanctuary in my remaining hypothesis, uniquely parsimonious and happily irrefutable. The Jews are God’s chosen people.

Does not look like the most reliable source ever to me.

Did you read the whole article?

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05 Sep 2012, 3:57 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:

I am not an objective scientist collecting data. So, I can use Socratic questions when arguing in the web.

Somehow a web page that finishes saying

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At this point, I take sanctuary in my remaining hypothesis, uniquely parsimonious and happily irrefutable. The Jews are God’s chosen people.

Does not look like the most reliable source ever to me.

When you ask someone to back something up like you did, you would benefit more by dropping your bias and exploring this question with objectivity. Otherwise, it's useless to even read opposing information if your mind is already made up. Just saying....

You'd also have to read the source in it's entirety and more successfully point out contradictions, you haven't done that yet. Or at least explain the contradiction. Socrates would be disappointed lol......jk

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