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Which of These Candidate Should Win?
Poll ended at 06 Nov 2012, 5:10 pm
Barack Obama, Joe Biden (Democratic Party) 50%  50%  [ 56 ]
Jill Stein, Cheri Honkala (Green Party) 10%  10%  [ 11 ]
Gary Johnson, Jim Gray (Libertarian Party) 12%  12%  [ 13 ]
Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan (Republican Party) 19%  19%  [ 21 ]
Other Write-In Candidate: ________________ (Please Detail Below) 10%  10%  [ 11 ]
Total votes : 112

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17 Oct 2012, 11:37 pm

when slick willard's greedy old party says "broaden the base" [of taxation], what they really mean is balance the budget on joe lunchbucket's head while the 1% skates by at <15% rates. they want only pofolk to pay the taxes. they would do away with the earned income tax credit, for starters. beware of romyan [unless you're of the lucky 1%].



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17 Oct 2012, 11:45 pm

It doesn't really matter who wins. In the end, it's all going to come down to which candidate the majority of voters think will say "I Love You" the sweetest ... just before he rips into you from behind.



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18 Oct 2012, 12:36 am

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i beg to differ- if one is not a captain of the universe, the democrats offer a basic refuge. the repubs would just throw me to the lions with a smirk.



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18 Oct 2012, 1:42 am

I'll hold my nose and vote Romney. I think the best, most reasonable candidate would have been Ron Paul, but sadly he is no longer running. I will vote for Romney because I despise Obama and almost everything he stands for. I don't want to be forced by threat of force to own health insurance coverage. Likewise, I want to be able to own guns. I don't trust Romney much on guns, but I do trust him more than Obama. I know he won't give me what I want in this area (the ability for the average person to buy fully automatic belt fed machine guns), but at least I don't feel as threatened by him with regards to confiscation. Unfortunately, neither of the major party candidates will use their office to eliminate the Department of Homeland Security or the Environmental Protection Agency, but I guess you can't get everything.


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18 Oct 2012, 1:48 am

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I don't want to be forced by threat of force to own health insurance coverage.

out of curiosity, fellow WPer, what are your plans should the unthinkable happen and you get severely injured by some misfortune such as an accident of some kind? are you sufficiently wealthy that you can pay the 6-figure+ hospital bill out of your own pocket? saying "that will never happen" is just whistling past the graveyard.



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18 Oct 2012, 1:54 am

auntblabby wrote:
outofplace wrote:
I don't want to be forced by threat of force to own health insurance coverage.

out of curiosity, fellow WPer, what are your plans should the unthinkable happen and you get severely injured by some misfortune such as an accident of some kind? are you sufficiently wealthy that you can pay the 6-figure+ hospital bill out of your own pocket? saying "that will never happen" is just whistling past the graveyard.


I accept the fact that I will die. It is not up to the government to assure that any other outcome will happen. I am nobody's responsibility but my own. Now if someone wishes to pay my way in the hospital after said accident or illness, then I will graciously accept their charity. Barring that though, I do accept death.


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18 Oct 2012, 10:02 am

auntblabby wrote:
^^^
i beg to differ- if one is not a captain of the universe, the democrats offer a basic refuge. the repubs would just throw me to the lions with a smirk.

The Demos are the lions!

Once the Repubs put you on the street, who do you think will give you just enough entitlements to keep you alive, but not enough for you to get back on your feet?

Personally, I'd rather not have to die the Death of One Thousand Cuts.



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18 Oct 2012, 3:14 pm

Why do people want the EPA scrapped? Is it because it is too strict or not strict enough?



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18 Oct 2012, 4:03 pm

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Why do people want the EPA scrapped? Is it because it is too strict or not strict enough?


It is inefficient and expensive. It has only handled a fraction of the "super sites" originally proposed. So it cannot handle pollution from the past. It is only useful if it -prevents- pollution in the present and the future. Since it is run by the government which usually has a crony relation to industry it is unlikely to have enough teeth to do the job.

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18 Oct 2012, 4:35 pm

unconstitutional and kills jobs too



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18 Oct 2012, 4:38 pm

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unconstitutional and kills jobs too


EPA stuff could fit under regulation of interstate commerce.

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18 Oct 2012, 5:11 pm

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unconstitutional and kills jobs too


EPA stuff could fit under regulation of interstate commerce.

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as can breathing



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18 Oct 2012, 5:17 pm

I'm sure i speak for many non US people here when I say i find it simultaneously incredibly astonishing and depressing in equal measure when many people residing in the Earths leading land of abundance talk about placing a higher precedence over the ability to end other people's lives than access to services at point of demand in order to be able to save their own.

Amurka, you're a f'ed up place.



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18 Oct 2012, 11:35 pm

Fnord wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
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i beg to differ- if one is not a captain of the universe, the democrats offer a basic refuge. the repubs would just throw me to the lions with a smirk.

The Demos are the lions! Once the Repubs put you on the street, who do you think will give you just enough entitlements to keep you alive, but not enough for you to get back on your feet? Personally, I'd rather not have to die the Death of One Thousand Cuts.
that [death of a thousand gouges] is what the repubs have done to me so far, after my little misfortune [deer versus bicycle] and numerous house-sized hospital bills. the dems [via obamacare, should it be allowed to progress far enough to cover me] would not have put me in this $ituation. i would've been able to afford real medical insurance that actually covered something instead of a sham. what the dems would give me is still a lot better than the big fat nothing [but a kick in the head] that the repubs would deign to give me. i know which side is less hostile to my interests, and it never has been the elephant.



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18 Oct 2012, 11:43 pm

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I'm sure i speak for many non US people here when I say i find it simultaneously incredibly astonishing and depressing in equal measure when many people residing in the Earths leading land of abundance talk about placing a higher precedence over the ability to end other people's lives than access to services at point of demand in order to be able to save their own. Amurka, you're a f'ed up place.

thomas jefferson predicted what would happen to america when he said "freedom and ignorance cannot coexist." and h.l. mencken was on-point when he said "nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the american public." put those two thoughts together, et voila! - here you have for the whole world to see, a dysfunctional USA as it is today. god help us. :hmph:



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18 Oct 2012, 11:50 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
outofplace wrote:
I don't want to be forced by threat of force to own health insurance coverage.

out of curiosity, fellow WPer, what are your plans should the unthinkable happen and you get severely injured by some misfortune such as an accident of some kind? are you sufficiently wealthy that you can pay the 6-figure+ hospital bill out of your own pocket? saying "that will never happen" is just whistling past the graveyard.


I accept the fact that I will die. It is not up to the government to assure that any other outcome will happen. I am nobody's responsibility but my own. Now if someone wishes to pay my way in the hospital after said accident or illness, then I will graciously accept their charity. Barring that though, I do accept death.

my good man, death is FAR FROM the worst that could happen to you. :idea: you most likely would be given absolute minimal care which would result in permanent maiming rendering the rest of your natural life as a living hell. death would be a blessing.