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09 Oct 2012, 9:52 am

Question: Will the Baghdad Wal-Mart have jihad sales monthly ?



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09 Oct 2012, 10:01 am

I didn't read the entire thread, but I think American arrogance can be mainly attributed to three things:

1 geographic insulation/isolation
2 government propaganda
3 poor education

(I was going to include religious zeal as number 4, but I think that's more a side effect of number 3)



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11 Oct 2012, 3:57 pm

An interesting note: look at the history of Americans. Essentially, they rebelled because of the actions of criminals. And I'm not talking about any British people.



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11 Oct 2012, 5:32 pm

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And I'm not talking about any British people.


Who are you talking about, then? Everyone on both sides was a British subject. :?



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12 Oct 2012, 9:35 am

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As for the OP, I think America's arrogance is partly down to its youthfulness and immaturity as a country.

Its like the 'Scrappy Doo' of nations. "Lemme at im! Lemme at im! Puuuuppy Poooooower!" - an annoying petulant child, up well past its bedtime.

I long for the day that big Uncle China makes it sit on the naughty step for a while.

In the words of Eddie Izzard, a coalition between Germany and Japan would be better suited to act as 'global policeman'.


Ahh, I love eddie izzard.

Having America as the world's police is like telling the fat kid to guard the cake.



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12 Oct 2012, 10:13 am

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Ahh, I love eddie izzard.


Are you serious?!

Look what happened the last time the Germans and the Japanese wanted to be the world's policemen...



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12 Oct 2012, 11:38 am

Tequila wrote:
DerStadtschutz wrote:
Ahh, I love eddie izzard.


Are you serious?!

Look what happened the last time the Germans and the Japanese wanted to be the world's policemen...


When Mr Izzard told the gag, he meant in the context of post-war democratic Germany and Japan

"Look guys, we've done this before,now just back off and chill...CHILL!"

skip to 6:10
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6omQ5JjjLsE[/youtube]



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11 Feb 2015, 10:12 pm

Some Americans that have come up to visit and live in Canada have been some of the nastiest SOB's I have ever encountered. Just persistent rudeness, condescension and insults out of nowhere - not towards "me" but towards how we run our country.

I have no idea where this actually comes from. They are not their country, just because your country is "powerful" doesn't mean you are and besides you're an individual. I can only hope these people were just bad apples. I am sure there are humble Americans out there.



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11 Feb 2015, 10:29 pm

They're bad apples.

Most Americans are good eggs.



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11 Feb 2015, 11:31 pm

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There was nothing illegal or immoral in nuking a legit military target which what both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were. If we had nuked Kyoto, you might have had a point, but Kyoto was scratched early on from the nuclear target list.

Please do recall it was the Japanese who started the Pacific war. The U.S. finished it.

ruveyn

I would disagree. The collateral damage from the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was far far greater than Pearl Harbour. If it had been a US military city that was nuked, WW-III would have followed eventually.

It reminds me of when an Aussie reporter asked D.Rumsfeld if going into Iraq was an overreaction to 9/11. He basically said, (paraphrasing) "How.. dare.. you! (clenched teeth) We were attacked! We have the right!"

It also reminds me of W saying, those who are not with us are against us.

Yes, the US are good because they have strength in numbers. Fiscally, they outweigh us 30 to 1. But might does not equal right. Thankfully, the US is civilly advanced enough to be right enough of the time to matter.

And apart from being a little loud at times :P they're mostly good folks.


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11 Feb 2015, 11:36 pm

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19. Pakistan is the country with the best national anthem.


No, I'd say that goes to Turkey for its dramatic national anthem:


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11 Feb 2015, 11:44 pm

Because we're just better, obviously.








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12 Feb 2015, 1:14 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
They're bad apples.

Most Americans are good eggs.


I've met some super rude, mean, violent Canadians. I's my belief that such people are not limited by national borders.

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ruveyn wrote:
There was nothing illegal or immoral in nuking a legit military target which what both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were. If we had nuked Kyoto, you might have had a point, but Kyoto was scratched early on from the nuclear target list.

Please do recall it was the Japanese who started the Pacific war. The U.S. finished it.

ruveyn

I would disagree. The collateral damage from the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was far far greater than Pearl Harbour. If it had been a US military city that was nuked, WW-III would have followed eventually.


the other choice would have resulted in far far far more deaths of Japanese. as they would have fought to the last man blowing up more and more kids in an effort to win a lost war.



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12 Feb 2015, 1:18 am

sly279 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
They're bad apples.

Most Americans are good eggs.


I've met some super rude, mean, violent Canadians. I's my belief that such people are not limited by national borders.

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ruveyn wrote:
There was nothing illegal or immoral in nuking a legit military target which what both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were. If we had nuked Kyoto, you might have had a point, but Kyoto was scratched early on from the nuclear target list.

Please do recall it was the Japanese who started the Pacific war. The U.S. finished it.

ruveyn

I would disagree. The collateral damage from the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was far far greater than Pearl Harbour. If it had been a US military city that was nuked, WW-III would have followed eventually.


the other choice would have resulted in far far far more deaths of Japanese. as they would have fought to the last man blowing up more and more kids in an effort to win a lost war.

That assumes a choice of only two options.
Half the tonnage of the two blasts would have been enough. Perhaps even less.


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12 Feb 2015, 2:15 am

Narrator wrote:
sly279 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
They're bad apples.

Most Americans are good eggs.


I've met some super rude, mean, violent Canadians. I's my belief that such people are not limited by national borders.

Narrator wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
There was nothing illegal or immoral in nuking a legit military target which what both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were. If we had nuked Kyoto, you might have had a point, but Kyoto was scratched early on from the nuclear target list.

Please do recall it was the Japanese who started the Pacific war. The U.S. finished it.

ruveyn

I would disagree. The collateral damage from the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was far far greater than Pearl Harbour. If it had been a US military city that was nuked, WW-III would have followed eventually.


the other choice would have resulted in far far far more deaths of Japanese. as they would have fought to the last man blowing up more and more kids in an effort to win a lost war.

That assumes a choice of only two options.
Half the tonnage of the two blasts would have been enough. Perhaps even less.

maybe but we only know that looking back. theres a reason one bomb was bigger then the other, they didn't know what size explosion it would make or which system would work good, we didn't have enough to make more, which is why dropping it on an empty island was ruled out. if the Japanese hadn't given up we didn't have more bombs. really it was a bluff. I heard it might have been another yearish to build more so we would have had to land and invade if they didn't. also taught the world how bad it is, imagine if we hadn't and the first bomb used was ones we have now. if we hadn't used it Russians would have. it a tech that once created would have been used in war cause until its death toll is seen people wouldn't have know how bad it was to be afraid of it. mean if nukes only killed the same as say regular bombs then they would probably be in regular use just like them.



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12 Feb 2015, 2:24 am

As I recall, they intended to blow away both cities, and they did.
As many as 250,000 lives, a hundred times that of Pearl.


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