What is multiculturalism?

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Anecdotal evidence.

Equally, from what I can tell, there is still a very large secular presence in Turkey but the government seems to be going backwards and ignoring the legacy of Kemal.

As did the people of Mesopotamia, long before the three major religions existed.

I like how Pat mentioned Kosher slaughtering in his video. I'm not vegetarian or anything but if one person in a country has to follow animal cruelty laws then everyone else should.

Well its still valid. You could could deride my whole experience growing up in a multi-racial family as "anecdotal", but it still has weight. At least its a direct experience and not something someone is just regurgitating from the news.

I can't stand that guy. Tolerance isn't that everyone has to focus on Islam. The idea of tolerance is that in any society, no matter how multi or mono cultural it is, there's always going to be differences among people, so its better to live and let live than to make everyone be exactly the samee. That's not to say death threats to cartoonists should be tolerated, but if someone wants to wear a scarf over their head. let them wear the damn scarf.

I like how he makes it this very black and white thing too. "Oh Muslims are crazy, so therefore multu-culturalism doesn't work", Yah, maybe the way its been approached is wrong, but it doesn't mean the whole concept is baseless. Its really Britains problem, and I could care less anyway. They shouldn't have colonized all those Islamic regions if they didn't want anything to do with those people.

To act as if all or most Muslims are terrorists is stupid though. I have a Muslim IRL friend who absolutely hates Osama bin Laden for hurting the image of Islam.

The difference is that Jews have never forced the supermarkets to serve kosher meat. In many supermarkets and in schools and hospitals, halal is mandatory.

In the Netherlands, both kosher and halal preparation is now banned AFAIK.

I like how Pat mentioned Kosher slaughtering in his video. I'm not vegetarian or anything but if one person in a country has to follow animal cruelty laws then everyone else should.[/quote]

The Kosher customs are immune from law because of the First Amendment, here in the U.S.

It can be shown the the Shochet (Kosher slaughter) is as painful or as painless and whacking the animal on the head or administering electric shock. Let's face it. If we want to eat meat that is not road kill or dead of some disease we have to slaughter the bests whose flesh we consume. I am sure PETA and many vegetarians would like to outlaw killing for meat but they are outvoted. Tough on them. If they don't like handling or eating animal products they can make grass skirts for themselves and eat nuts and berries.

ruveyn

Multiculturalism might be synonymous with cultural pluralism, which is simply multiple cultures coexisting with one another while maintaining unique aspects and qualities of their respective cultures. The thing most of us notice is that these are ideals and that societies typically contain multiple aspects of many ideals such as: pluralism, amalgamation, segregation and sometimes assimilation. The Unites States, to me is mostly an example of pluralism and amalgamation yet there is still some segregation. There are some cultures which have diffused into each other so much that they are now a different culture completely (melting pot/ amalgamation), and some cultures which have maintained strong divides, attempting to maintain their culture while co-existing with other cultures (multiculturalism/ pluralism). Thirdly, there are still some cultures in the USA who are segregated (think reservations). So it's really hard (for me)to put one single correct label on a country like USA. Finally these are societal ideals and never play out the way they are defined.

The Kosher customs are immune from law because of the First Amendment, here in the U.S.

It can be shown the the Shochet (Kosher slaughter) is as painful or as painless and whacking the animal on the head or administering electric shock. Let's face it. If we want to eat meat that is not road kill or dead of some disease we have to slaughter the bests whose flesh we consume. I am sure PETA and many vegetarians would like to outlaw killing for meat but they are outvoted. Tough on them. If they don't like handling or eating animal products they can make grass skirts for themselves and eat nuts and berries.

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Ruveyn, I used to make that argument about Kosher slaughter, but those undercover slaughterhouse films set me right. It can be pretty horrific; better to pith the animal first.

Half the kosher slaughterhouses now use Temple Grandins pen and pathway designs. They are designed to put the animals at some ease right up to the point they are killed.

The shochet administered properly is as painless as electric shock The animals are unconscious within seconds and dead within a minute.

ruveyn

I don't understand the issue with the definition of multiculturalism. Just look it up in the dictionary.

What dictionary?

I don't know about the pen or pathway designs, as they weren't shown in the video; the one that I saw bellowed when it was cut, was ejected from the kill chute to slide and stumble around in its own growing puddle of blood, bellowing in pain and fear, for about a minute; it took about 2 minutes to lose consciousness, and about 5 minutes to die. It was a Kosher slaughterhouse, with fairly high-tech equipment, somewhere in New York. It was really cruel.

I've seen goats slaughtered by African tribesmen with machetes, on National Geographic, that suffered less.

I think it is a system where multiple cultures interact and exchange while maintaining a common set of laws that favor no particular group. Cultures acknowledge one anothers accomplishments as achievements of humanity as a whole. Essentially what society could be like if humanity were to master its tribal passions and be mindful of them. So it does not really exist in the present, just some imitations that claim this status for the most-part...

Any professionally published, sufficiently extensive dictionary.