Pat Condell: "Patronising the Palestinians"

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Why? I can guess why, but please elaborate.

Any 'corner' they've backed themselves into is of their own making. All they have to do is stop the violence. It is that simple.

They have a choice in life. They can either choose to keep killing Jews and trying to wipe Israel off the map and drive the Jews into the sea or they can sit down around a negotiating table and seriously sort out the foundations for a Palestinian state. The Palestinians need a complete change in outlook and leadership and they come and sit down with Israel themselves (i.e. not through other Arab governments, who have their own reasons to use and abuse the people in the West Bank and Gaza), and if the Israelis believe they can work with them things will then happen very quickly.

The Jews of Mandatory Palestine, and later the Israelis, have supported a Palestinian (or, rather, separate Arab) state in the area since the 1930s. Hell, they didn't contest the fact that 80% of the land of Mandatory Palestine went to Jordan, which has an overwhelmingly Palestinian population.

A Palestinian state is no good though if the people running that state are just going to use it as a massive launch pad to further attack Israel. It's not about a two-state solution, or a one-state solution. It's about the mentality of the people (a little bit like the constitutional status in Northern Ireland), and as Condell rightly points out, much of the blame is on the heads of the Palestinians themselves (especially their terrorist leaders) and the other Arab governments. You can argue all you like about Israel's settlements in the West Bank (and, yes, some of the Jewish settlers there are absolute w*kers of the first water), but these can all be ironed out at the time of any deal and all will be on the table. It's not at the root of the problem. Settlements didn't exist in 1948 or 1967.

For any remote chance of peace to be even remotely considered though, Hamas must not only be defeated but wiped off the face of this very Earth. Their own Charter makes this crystal clear that that is the only way we'll see the last of them - through total annihilation. They should be about as welcome to peace-loving people as turds in a bathtub.

A sea change in the political outlooks of all the Arab governments would need to happen as well, and the Palestinians would need to ditch their anti-Semitism which, at the end of the day, is at the root of the problem. The 'Palestinians' never attacked Jordan when it was occupying Palestinian land (i.e. the West Bank) for 19 years even though they had less rights under them than under Israel after the Six-Day War. Why is that?

If they can do all those things, and work with the Israelis they'll be on to a winner. Palestine would then be a prosperous, free, secular country and the money would roll in. Everyone would be better off, apart from the Islamists.

Focusing on European culture or history to the exclusion of a wider view of the world; implicitly regarding European culture as preeminent.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 73,00.html

'Islamization of Europe a good thing'

Rabbi Baruch Efrati believes Jews should 'rejoice at the fact that Europe is paying for what it did to us for hundreds of years by losing its identity.' He praises Islam for promoting modesty, respect for God
As concerns grow over the increasing number of Muslims in Europe, it appears not everyone is bothered by the issue, including an Israeli rabbi who even welcomes the phenomenon.
Rabbi Baruch Efrati, a yeshiva head and community rabbi in the West Bank settlement of Efrat, believes that the Islamization of Europe is actually a good thing.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... flict.html
'A deep-rooted hatred of the British': How Israelis 'armed junta' in Falklands conflict

By Mail Foreign Service 20 April 2011

Israel secretly provided arms and supplies to Argentina during the Falklands conflict, according to revelations in a new book.
Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin had such a deep-rooted hatred of the British that the Jewish state covertly became the biggest supplier of military equipment to the Argentine military junta.

In Israel it's a different matter but elsewhere they back multiculturalism as a rule.

Do you even know anything about Israel? It's just about the most multicultural place on the planet.

People like you want to destroy the distinctly multicultural air of Israel, where Jews of all different nationalities and colours live together in peace with Arabs, and replace it with a Jew-free Islamist Arab monoculture.

There are more than enough places like that in the Middle East.

Israel is multicultural because it's like a stitched-up Frankenstein Monster of Jews funnelled in from around the world and Dayan said that this is why Israel must always be at war, in order to force the pieces together because otherwise they'd be fighting each other. However, if you do not help fill Israel out demographically for the Jewish camp, you are not wanted, you are considered an enemy. The war against African migrants, for example... and of course against the Palestinians living there.

The war against the African migrants

There is no 'war' against the African migrants. They just don't want large numbers of them in their country. Does anyone (apart from the delusional left) really want large numbers of poorly-educated African immigrants in their country?

Also: Israel already has a considerable black African population - ever heard of the Ethiopian Jews? Nearly all of them now live in Israel.

They're still at war

They clearly hate the part of the world they're in

and let's not forget that they were closely allied with Apartheid South Africa, even detonating a nuclear bomb together over the Indian Ocean.

Israel is multicultural because it's like a stitched-up Frankenstein Monster of Jews funnelled in from around the world and Dayan said that this is why Israel must always be at war, in order to force the pieces together because otherwise they'd be fighting each other. However, if you do not help fill Israel out demographically for the Jewish camp, you are not wanted, you are considered an enemy. The war against African migrants, for example... and of course against the Palestinians living there.

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AFTER DECADES OF DISCRIMINATION, ISRAEL’S ETHIOPIAN JEWS SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

Israel is home to roughly 100,000 Falashas, black Jews of Ethiopian descent. They have no government representation and say they’re treated like second-class citizens. Led by a hitherto unknown man named Molat Araro, the Falashas are finally starting to speak out.

By Serge Dumon 2012
LE TEMPS/Worldcrunch

JERUSALEM -- “Don’t look at me like a savage,” declares Molat Araro. Until relatively recently, the 26-year-old was almost completely unknown within his Israel-based community of Falashas, black Ethiopian Jews. ...
But everything changed when this physical education student set off on a march against racism, wearing an Israeli flag and with half his face painted blue. This pilgrimage took him from Kiryat Malahi, a small town in the south of Israel where 20% of the inhabitants are Falashas, to the doors of the Knesset, the Israeli parliament, in Jerusalem.

Approximately 5,000 other Falashas were waiting for him there to denounce the discrimination they face in Israel. “When our parents emigrated en masse at the start of the 1980s, they thought they were escaping to paradise. But all they have found is contempt,” says Adissu Mohal, a 40-year-old supermarket employee. “Not a day goes by without someone treating me like a cockroach because of the color of my skin.”

The Falashas discontent spilled over three weeks ago when the white inhabitants of Kiryat Malahi agreed in writing not to rent or sell any goods to the blacks. The town hall supported the agreement. “We don’t want these s**ts in our buildings,” town residents told television reporters. In response, the Falashas, who hadn’t protested since 1995, took to the streets. “We are just like you, listen to us!” the protestors shouted.
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There are only about 100,000 Falashas in Israel. Together they represent just 1.5% of the population and have no representation in government. A disturbing sign of just how desperate conditions are for some Falashas are the numerous murder-suicide cases that have occurred over the past decade. There have been at least 30 cases of unemployed and depressed Falasha men killing their wives and children before taking their own lives. Dozens of others have attempted, unsuccessfully, to do the same.

Aware of the seriousness of the problem, the Ministry of Immigration commissioned a study in 2009, but the results were so damning for the State’s integration policies that the most sensitive chapters were never released.

Xenon, good point. In addition, I'd point out:

1. The supposed idea behind multiculturalism is that no one culture should dominate, whereas Israel was always intended to be a Jewish homeland.

2. The main reason Arabs are still living in Israel is because the Zionist Jews "only" managed to expel 720,000 during the Civil War.

3. Perhaps Tequila should read up some more on how the various Jewish groups within Israel are treated by the Ashkenazi majority. Try the article below, for example...