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20 Jan 2013, 3:43 pm

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Muhammad (PBUH) IS literally a walking Quran, by making fun of Muhammad PBUH it's a direct insult on Islam. Also in Islam we love all the Prophets and insulting any Prophet is forbidden and a vile act.

This may come as a surprise to you, salad, but right now, you are *not* putting Islam in a particularly positive light.



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20 Jan 2013, 3:47 pm

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Muhammad (PBUH) IS literally a walking Quran, by making fun of Muhammad PBUH it's a direct insult on Islam. Also in Islam we love all the Prophets and insulting any Prophet is forbidden and a vile act. l


Is there an infinitesimal small enough to measure the concern I have for Muslims and their tender feelings? I doubt it. My general attitude is screw Mohammed and the camel he rode into town on. I consider that goat herder and child molester one of the truly evil, vile beings spawned by the human race. If God were good (which I doubt) he would have sucked the breath out of Mohammed the instant he was born.

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20 Jan 2013, 3:47 pm

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salad wrote:
Muhammad (PBUH) IS literally a walking Quran, by making fun of Muhammad PBUH it's a direct insult on Islam. Also in Islam we love all the Prophets and insulting any Prophet is forbidden and a vile act.

This may come as a surprise to you, salad, but right now, you are *not* putting Islam in a particularly positive light.
From the looks of it on a somewhat fundamentalist level.


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20 Jan 2013, 4:09 pm

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Muhammad (PBUH) IS literally a walking Quran, by making fun of Muhammad PBUH it's a direct insult on Islam. Also in Islam we love all the Prophets and insulting any Prophet is forbidden and a vile act.

This may come as a surprise to you, salad, but right now, you are *not* putting Islam in a particularly positive light.


Anyone who is ashamed of their Prophet is ashamed of Islam. There's no such thing as fundamentalist, radical, moderate etc. regarding our opinion about the Prophet, every Muslim or at least true Muslim must be proud of him as our Prophet and believes he exemplified unparalleled character and piety. Anyone who is even 1% ashamed of our Prophet is a disgrace to Islam. Why don't people look at his honesty, his generosity, his forgiveness, kindness, his piety and devotion, his simplicity and frugal lifestyle, etc. His biography is crammed with the most beautiful of characteristics and honorable traits and actions and sayings, yet the critics overlook such lofty character and fixate their attention on whatever even virtually appears to be a "barbaric, radical and filthy" human trait, and rant on trying to depict him as a subhuman. I've done research on the Prophet, read his biographies, and learned about him, and from what I've learnt he seems like a magnificent character and a great human being. Why doesn't anybody pay attention to these hadiths:

http://islamgreatreligion.wordpress.com ... rue-story/

http://www.islamicrenaissance.com/blog/ ... -of-honey/

http://www.islam-guide.com/ch1-6.htm

http://asad123.com/2008/03/21/favorite- ... -upon-him/

http://www.islamicity.com/articles/Arti ... C1202-5006

So yes, I love him and am proud of him as the greatest human to walk the Earth. Read his biography before judging him, I read a 3 volume biography of him and am proud to say that he's my Prophet. Why don't you read his biography with an open mind rather than skimming it at 100/mph trying to find as many errors as you can. You don't pick and choose, if you are to judge Prophet Muhammad PBUH by the hadiths, you have to use ALL the hadiths, meaning all the stories and hadiths regarding his character, modesty, kindness, generosity, simplicity, etc.



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20 Jan 2013, 4:19 pm

salad wrote:
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salad wrote:
Muhammad (PBUH) IS literally a walking Quran, by making fun of Muhammad PBUH it's a direct insult on Islam. Also in Islam we love all the Prophets and insulting any Prophet is forbidden and a vile act.

This may come as a surprise to you, salad, but right now, you are *not* putting Islam in a particularly positive light.


Anyone who is ashamed of their Prophet is ashamed of Islam. There's no such thing as fundamentalist, radical, moderate etc. regarding our opinion about the Prophet, every Muslim or at least true Muslim must be proud of him as our Prophet and believes he exemplified unparalleled character and piety. Anyone who is even 1% ashamed of our Prophet is a disgrace to Islam. Why don't people look at his honesty, his generosity, his forgiveness, kindness, his piety and devotion, his simplicity and frugal lifestyle, etc. His biography is crammed with the most beautiful of characteristics and honorable traits and actions and sayings.

And now you are just making it worse.



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20 Jan 2013, 4:24 pm

Wow just wow i guess im an infidel then. I dont believe in any religion what so ever perhaps I should die? Because I do not believe? Sorry not happening!


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20 Jan 2013, 4:36 pm

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Wow just wow i guess im an infidel then. I dont believe in any religion what so ever perhaps I should die? Because I do not believe? Sorry not happening!


What on Earth are you saying?



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20 Jan 2013, 4:36 pm

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salad wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
salad wrote:
Muhammad (PBUH) IS literally a walking Quran, by making fun of Muhammad PBUH it's a direct insult on Islam. Also in Islam we love all the Prophets and insulting any Prophet is forbidden and a vile act.

This may come as a surprise to you, salad, but right now, you are *not* putting Islam in a particularly positive light.


Anyone who is ashamed of their Prophet is ashamed of Islam. There's no such thing as fundamentalist, radical, moderate etc. regarding our opinion about the Prophet, every Muslim or at least true Muslim must be proud of him as our Prophet and believes he exemplified unparalleled character and piety. Anyone who is even 1% ashamed of our Prophet is a disgrace to Islam. Why don't people look at his honesty, his generosity, his forgiveness, kindness, his piety and devotion, his simplicity and frugal lifestyle, etc. His biography is crammed with the most beautiful of characteristics and honorable traits and actions and sayings.

And now you are just making it worse.


READ MY ENTIRE COMMENT. I EDITED IT ABOVE.



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20 Jan 2013, 4:43 pm

Mohammad was your typical clever and shrewd cult leader. Nothing supernatural or fascinating about him except from an anthropological point of view.

Jesus was far more inspiring than him as a historical/religious figure (even though I don't like Jesus' character in the Bible).



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20 Jan 2013, 4:48 pm

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Mohammad was your typical clever and shrewd cult leader. Nothing supernatural or fascinating about him except from an anthropological point of view.

Jesus was far more inspiring than him as a historical/religious figure (even though I don't like Jesus' character in the Bible).


his 3 volume biography says otherwise.



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20 Jan 2013, 4:51 pm

salad wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
salad wrote:
Muhammad (PBUH) IS literally a walking Quran, by making fun of Muhammad PBUH it's a direct insult on Islam. Also in Islam we love all the Prophets and insulting any Prophet is forbidden and a vile act.

This may come as a surprise to you, salad, but right now, you are *not* putting Islam in a particularly positive light.


Anyone who is ashamed of their Prophet is ashamed of Islam. There's no such thing as fundamentalist, radical, moderate etc. regarding our opinion about the Prophet, every Muslim or at least true Muslim must be proud of him as our Prophet and believes he exemplified unparalleled character and piety. Anyone who is even 1% ashamed of our Prophet is a disgrace to Islam. Why don't people look at his honesty, his generosity, his forgiveness, kindness, his piety and devotion, his simplicity and frugal lifestyle, etc. His biography is crammed with the most beautiful of characteristics and honorable traits and actions and sayings, yet the critics overlook such lofty character and fixate their attention on whatever even virtually appears to be a "barbaric, radical and filthy" human trait, and rant on trying to depict him as a subhuman. I've done research on the Prophet, read his biographies, and learned about him, and from what I've learnt he seems like a magnificent character and a great human being. Why doesn't anybody pay attention to these hadiths:

http://islamgreatreligion.wordpress.com ... rue-story/

http://www.islamicrenaissance.com/blog/ ... -of-honey/

http://www.islam-guide.com/ch1-6.htm

http://asad123.com/2008/03/21/favorite- ... -upon-him/

http://www.islamicity.com/articles/Arti ... C1202-5006

So yes, I love him and am proud of him as the greatest human to walk the Earth. Read his biography before judging him, I read a 3 volume biography of him and am proud to say that he's my Prophet. Why don't you read his biography with an open mind rather than skimming it at 100/mph trying to find as many errors as you can. You don't pick and choose, if you are to judge Prophet Muhammad PBUH by the hadiths, you have to use ALL the hadiths, meaning all the stories and hadiths regarding his character, modesty, kindness, generosity, simplicity, etc.


By his fruit ye shall know him. Look at what Islam has done to the world. Then judge.

Can you be objective? I doubt it.

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20 Jan 2013, 4:52 pm

Yeah, the Mormons say something similar about their own prophet as well. What does it prove? Nothing substantial other than that he was a mere human being worshiped and idolized by many even long after his death.



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20 Jan 2013, 4:54 pm

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Can you be objective? I doubt it.


He is too passionate.



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20 Jan 2013, 4:56 pm

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Can you be objective? I doubt it.


He is too passionate.


Sincere believers brainwash themselves. I used to be one, so I know what I am saying is true.

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20 Jan 2013, 5:03 pm

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Can you be objective? I doubt it.


He is too passionate.


Sincere believers brainwash themselves. I used to be one, so I know what I am saying is true.

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Me too.

And even though I've long ditched the Christian faith, I still feel a bit brainwashed by some of its traces at times.